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Shot in the dark - coffee business

One of my friends had a coffee shop for a my while. One issue he had was due to licensing issues he could only serve certain pre-cooked food which was crazy expensive. Otherwise u you'll need to get certified to cook your own stuff.

Consider traffic patterns, our Tim Hortons closed it's doors because it was on the wrong side of the road. I live about 35 miles from the second biggest city in our state, a LOT of us commute and timmys was a left turn in and a left turn out in the mornings...
 
Yes some people have money and some dont. Wal Mart stock is down about $80 a share since last Nov. One gal of milk is not selling but 1/2 gal sales are up, per Wal Mart. Mothers are cutting back. Other items in the grocery stores are not selling. Long term food contracts with the major grocery stores are renewing Oct. Major food price increases comming.

36% of Americans dont have $400 to cover a emergency.
 
Every mobile vendor I've talked to does pretty good.... The dang hotdog guy would clear 4k in a weekend selling close to nightclubs late at night to the drunkards. Learn the break schedule of the guys on the big job sites, set up by the university. No rent and no anchor... Hustle and u do good. The guy selling boiled peanuts on the side of the road makes bank
My taxidermist also makes money off of taxidermy tools he invented and patented, airbrushes t-shirts for summer tourists, DJs, and bartends. He's a serial entrepreneur.

He says his biggest mistake was selling his snowcone business. Selling somebody 5 cents worth of shaved ice and syrup for $5 on a southern summer day is apparently pretty ludicrous once you've paid for the truck and the shaver.
 
My taxidermist also makes money off of taxidermy tools he invented and patented, airbrushes t-shirts for summer tourists, DJs, and bartends. He's a serial entrepreneur.

He says his biggest mistake was selling his snowcone business. Selling somebody 5 cents worth of shaved ice and syrup for $5 on a southern summer day is apparently pretty ludicrous once you've paid for the truck and the shaver.
There is a few around here you can rent by the hr. Guy shows up, gives you a cup of ice, you put the flavor on at the little dispenser. Easy money. Take tips.
 
My taxidermist also makes money off of taxidermy tools he invented and patented, airbrushes t-shirts for summer tourists, DJs, and bartends. He's a serial entrepreneur.

He says his biggest mistake was selling his snowcone business. Selling somebody 5 cents worth of shaved ice and syrup for $5 on a southern summer day is apparently pretty ludicrous once you've paid for the truck and the shaver.
My wife was enthralled with shave ice in Hawaii. She’s considered starting her own shave ice business at home in PA here, figuring on those same principles that the overhead is pretty dang cheap. I like to point out to her that PA unlike HI has a short period of summer temps, the business would seasonal at best, and we’d spend every weekend in summer in a trailer at a county fair. But yeah, it seems like a low investment cash cow if you have the market.
 
I am self employed and I always toss around the idea of a small coffee shop as another avenue or added income and I almost pulled the trigger a few times. I have lots of ideas but I am not in an area that I feel it would pan out, bit to rural and not enough traffic, by the time I get to an area that it would work it’s to far to make sense for me. Location is key for a coffee shop and focus is on a specific crowds at the right times. You don’t make enough to make it successful without volume. If you have ever been to Anchorage Alaska, they have it down pat with driverhru coffee shops on busy roads. Quick detour to have coffee and breakfast for a drive into work. Overhead is cut by using a shed/mobile trailer in a parking lot that they can drive right up, grab their coffee and breakfast and continue on. If you are close to a gym and offer recovery smoothies with protein that will open up some business. Go hang signs in the gym for it and they will make their way over. Hang a sign about something you are doing to save the environment and reduce your footprint and the hipsters will show up, offer a discount to mothers with children in the car and they will go out of their way to drive thru because you are thinking about them…

now you got me thinking I should give it another go….
 
has a short period of summer temps, the business would seasonal at best, and we’d spend every weekend in summer in a trailer at a county fair.

My wife has had several "great" ideas over the years. Shaved ice truck, selling pizza from the boat, Selling ice cream from the boat, photo booth at weddings, etc. They sound great until I remind her of the fact above.
 
My wife has had several "great" ideas over the years. Shaved ice truck, selling pizza from the boat, Selling ice cream from the boat, photo booth at weddings, etc. They sound great until I remind her of the fact above.

The best financial idea my wife has ever had was to marry me so I could tactfully tell her that some of her ideas would run us bankrupt before we saw a dime from it.
 
The best financial idea my wife has ever had was to marry me so I could tactfully tell her that some of her ideas would run us bankrupt before we saw a dime from it.

LOL. My list above was just the small business ideas. They don't include the many restaurants she wanted to buy. I used to struggle with the "tactfully" part. Now I just tell her "show me a business plan and we can discuss it" The idea usually ends after that.
 
My wife has had several "great" ideas over the years. Shaved ice truck, selling pizza from the boat, Selling ice cream from the boat, photo booth at weddings, etc. They sound great until I remind her of the fact above.

I tell my wife we can talk her pursuing business dreams after she retire from the daycare she is running (5 kids). Usually as I hold one of the kid as protection.
 
The coffee shop my wife and I started and run is good money. Some months are obviously better than others. Location is big, but it’ll depend on the size of your city/town you’re looking to operate in too.

Ours is a brick and mortar shop in a building we own that has salon suites rented out inside as well. Very small coffee shop (about 600 sq ft with 4 tables). We sell coffee/espresso, lattes, blended fraps, smoothies, cold brew/nitro coffee on tap, and pre packaged bakery from a local baker.

We do not bake our own due to our license. We could get the bakery license, but wouldn’t have the space to do it anyways. And wouldn’t rent a kitchen to bake because that’s not something we’re interested in.

Our whole plan is to just keep it simple. @Red Beard it is a simple business to run and operate once you get the hang of it. Learning pains for sure.

I could have a laundry list of things I wish we would do or would’ve done, but one thing we don’t have is a drive thru. We would probably double our business if we had one. We are also looking to add a coffee truck soon. Beauty of that idea is you can work only when you want to. Plenty of events out there to work.

Imo, YOU DO NOT NEED A BUSINESS PLAN. I feel like this is something that people get hung up on all the time when thinking they want to start their own business.
 
The coffee shop my wife and I started and run is good money. Some months are obviously better than others. Location is big, but it’ll depend on the size of your city/town you’re looking to operate in too.

Ours is a brick and mortar shop in a building we own that has salon suites rented out inside as well. Very small coffee shop (about 600 sq ft with 4 tables). We sell coffee/espresso, lattes, blended fraps, smoothies, cold brew/nitro coffee on tap, and pre packaged bakery from a local baker.

We do not bake our own due to our license. We could get the bakery license, but wouldn’t have the space to do it anyways. And wouldn’t rent a kitchen to bake because that’s not something we’re interested in.

Our whole plan is to just keep it simple. @Red Beard it is a simple business to run and operate once you get the hang of it. Learning pains for sure.

I could have a laundry list of things I wish we would do or would’ve done, but one thing we don’t have is a drive thru. We would probably double our business if we had one. We are also looking to add a coffee truck soon. Beauty of that idea is you can work only when you want to. Plenty of events out there to work.

Imo, YOU DO NOT NEED A BUSINESS PLAN. I feel like this is something that people get hung up on all the time when thinking they want to start their own business.
And a can do attitude. I have talked to a few well off people. You have to have the mind set to go all in, and if it fails your just right back to where you started. Unless I'm wrong. Please correct me.
 
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