• The SH Membership has gone live. Only SH Members have access to post in the classifieds. All members can view the classifieds. Starting in 2020 only SH Members will be admitted to the annual hunting contest. Current members will need to follow these steps to upgrade: 1. Click on your username 2. Click on Account upgrades 3. Choose SH Member and purchase.
  • We've been working hard the past few weeks to come up with some big changes to our vendor policies to meet the changing needs of our community. Please see the new vendor rules here: Vendor Access Area Rules

Shot IQ Course

BowhunterXC

BowhunterXC

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 14, 2021
Messages
620
Location
N.W. Ohio
I had some target panic issues while shooting my compound, but I was able to "talk" myself out of it and my shooting has greatly improved. :cool: By the end of the summer, my scores at the 3D shoots had me in the top 3 shooters, at the clubs I had competed. This translated into my fall hunting , making it easy to take shots under pressure and get the animals I was after.

I have yet to figure out how to translate this shooting skill into my traditional archery. :rolleyes: I've always said, "archery is 90% mental and 10% shooting". At least for me, it certainly seems that way. It has me thinking that the $200 Shot IQ course, would be a good investment.

Has anyone taken the Shot IQ course, by Joel Turner?
If so, what is your opinion of the course?
Did it help you improve your shooting?
 
BowhunterXC said:
I had some target panic issues while shooting my compound, but I was able to "talk" myself out of it and my shooting has greatly improved. :cool: By the end of the summer, my scores at the 3D shoots had me in the top 3 shooters, at the clubs I had competed. This translated into my fall hunting , making it easy to take shots under pressure and get the animals I was after.

I have yet to figure out how to translate this shooting skill into my traditional archery. :rolleyes: I've always said, "archery is 90% mental and 10% shooting". At least for me, it certainly seems that way. It has me thinking that the $200 Shot IQ course, would be a good investment.

Has anyone taken the Shot IQ course, by Joel Turner?
If so, what is your opinion of the course?
Did it help you improve your shooting?
Click to expand...

I haven’t taken the course but, after absorbing everything I could find for free from Joel and incorporating as much of his teachings as I could my shooting improved greatly. I’m sure the course would be a good investment, especially if you are struggling with target panic.
 
BowhunterXC said:
I had some target panic issues while shooting my compound, but I was able to "talk" myself out of it and my shooting has greatly improved. :cool: By the end of the summer, my scores at the 3D shoots had me in the top 3 shooters, at the clubs I had competed. This translated into my fall hunting , making it easy to take shots under pressure and get the animals I was after.

I have yet to figure out how to translate this shooting skill into my traditional archery. :rolleyes: I've always said, "archery is 90% mental and 10% shooting". At least for me, it certainly seems that way. It has me thinking that the $200 Shot IQ course, would be a good investment.

Has anyone taken the Shot IQ course, by Joel Turner?
If so, what is your opinion of the course?
Did it help you improve your shooting?
Click to expand...
Havent done the course but have a buddy that has and his shooting improved but also his confidence improved a ton. There is a distinct difference between compound and traditional though and I would ask if you think your issue is mental or physical with the stick bow. If physical, I might lean more towards Tom Clum's course.
 
BTaylor said:
Havent done the course but have a buddy that has and his shooting improved but also his confidence improved a ton. There is a distinct difference between compound and traditional though and I would ask if you think your issue is mental or physical with the stick bow. If physical, I might lean more towards Tom Clum's course.
Click to expand...

I also recommend Tom Clum's course first. Having a solid foundation with your form will make anything you learn from Joel more effective. I'm not sure fixing the mental side without the physical side is possible and if even if it is will likely lead to more frustration eventually.
 
BTaylor said:
Havent done the course but have a buddy that has and his shooting improved but also his confidence improved a ton. There is a distinct difference between compound and traditional though and I would ask if you think your issue is mental or physical with the stick bow. If physical, I might lean more towards Tom Clum's course.
Click to expand...
I agree that the physical part will improve the mental part. :)

There's a gentleman on Archery Talk (Traditional Section) that sent me his program for free, by the name of Jim Casto Jr. Basically, it's drawing to anchor without releasing, several sets, for several days. Then there are 10 times of drawing to anchor without releasing, until the last one and shooting that arrow at 5 yards. Then back up to 10 yards, draw 9 times and shoot on the 10th....and keep backing up in 5 yard increments. It sets up your mind for holding and not shooting, until you're ready. Creating a "sight picture" for when you do shoot, but being in control of the bow, the shot and executing it at the right time. :cool:
This method does away with a clicker, which could make the situation worse.
 
BowhunterXC said:
I agree that the physical part will improve the mental part. :)

There's a gentleman on Archery Talk (Traditional Section) that sent me his program for free, by the name of Jim Casto Jr. Basically, it's drawing to anchor without releasing, several sets, for several days. Then there are 10 times of drawing to anchor without releasing, until the last one and shooting that arrow at 5 yards. Then back up to 10 yards, draw 9 times and shoot on the 10th....and keep backing up in 5 yard increments. It sets up your mind for holding and not shooting, until you're ready. Creating a "sight picture" for when you do shoot, but being in control of the bow, the shot and executing it at the right time. :cool:
This method does away with a clicker, which could make the situation worse.
Click to expand...

Listen to this podcast with Joel https://tradgeeks.com/podcast/podcast41/

While I can see the benefit in the exercises you mentioned it doesn't really address the issue of target panic. The podcast I linked really goes into the how and why.
 
I've done Jim Castro's program. I found it very helpful as a foundation for dealing with target panic. The mental aspects of target panic are very challenging. But I needed more than his program be cause I would basically back slide. To me target panic is when your unconscious brain says shoot but your conscious brain is not ready so I release premature based on the site picture. I found a combination of his program and a solid shot process helped me. I now tell myself to anchor, keep pulling, aim, pull more,then release. I've also used a clicker for the last stage of the cycle. I experience relapse at times and go on autopilot, which works for a short while. I've found that having 2 bows helps 1 with a clicker and 1 without but follow the same shot cycle. Each persons issues are different. Bowfishing never a problem for me. Rabbit hunting behind a beagle not a problem. 3d targets induce panic. Standing still animals produce panic. Best I can tell you do what works for you and keep at it. I went to Africa this past summer with a clicker on my longbow, why because it works for me and keeps me conscious of my shot cycle. I ended up successful with 3 animals all hit in the vitals with the first arrow.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top