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Single bevel broadheads

jgleas114

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Looking to purchase 200g single bevel. Leaning toward Grizzly Stiks.

What’s your expert with Grizzly? Any other broadheads to consider ?


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Currently using the Massai 200’s and love them. Killed and 8-point and a good sized spike with them last year.

Yet to kill one this year but hopefully soon!!
 
Been using Massais for the last few years. Been able to re sharpen them except the one that made contact with brick. It did not fair so well. Diamond file and strop is all I use. Once you get the feel for it, they come back pretty quick. I would save some coin and wait for their seconds if you can.
Killed two bucks and a doe with them so far.
No blood trail needed as I have seen where they all fall.
I do like the price and looks of these as well.
 
Everything mentioned above works very well. Also add VPA and Tuffhead to your list to check out.



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I would agree with everyone on Grizzly IW VPA Tuffhead Cutthroat and I’d throw in Abowyer as another option. I own most and it’s amazing to me the increased confidence I have using quality (IMO) products. 10D7AE69-2E77-46EC-8B73-0144A38D07C8.jpeg
 
I too have been using the Maasai 200g and am 2-0 on deer with them BUT blood trails have been all but non existent. Luckily the deer have fallen within sight or earshot. The last deer had zero blood except at site he fell.

I'm sorry, still learning. But why is that? Its something that I hear a lot from single bevel, that blood trail is inferior and the design is not recommended for beginner.
 
I too have been using the Maasai 200g and am 2-0 on deer with them BUT blood trails have been all but non existent. Luckily the deer have fallen within sight or earshot. The last deer had zero blood except at site he fell.

This is my opinion too on a single bevel! I have a bunch of buddies who have the same story as well. IMO you just wont get as good of a blood trail.
 
I'm sorry, still learning. But why is that? Its something that I hear a lot from single bevel, that blood trail is inferior and the design is not recommended for beginner.
I heard that too when looking into single bevels. For that reason, I went with the iron will single bevels with bleeders. I have yet to put one through a deer, but hoping the bleeders help.
 
I like the 200 grain Cutthroats and am trying the 200 grain SB Iron Wills with bleeders. This year I have killed with both when I needed the help of a plan B broadhead/arrow.

This is a link to the Cutthroat kill with pictures

The one I killed with the Iron Will I hit just back of the last rib quartering away and the broadhead exited under the opposite side front shoulder. It took a while for this one to die as I hit intestines, stomach and 1 lung. I kept finding shaved hair along the blood trail because the broadhead was cleanly cutting hair off the inside of the front leg. If you look at the front leg in the picture you will see where the broadhead was shaving the leg, that is out of the box sharp. I found the front half of the arrow after about 500 yds and the back half stayed inside the body cavity.

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I used the same 620 gn total arrow weight for both.

I have no complaints about the Cutthroat you can get it shaving sharp even after shooting them into the dirt and they get great rotation. The Iron wills come shaving sharp, are harder and have bleeder blades, my only question on the Iron Will is how much SB rotation do you get with such a short cutting edge. Now that I am tagged out and have a IW broadhead that will need touching up I am going to shoot into a Rinehart target and see how the rotation compares to the Cutthroat.
 
I'm not believing the claim that single bevs dont leave as good a blood trail as double bevs.
Having an exit wound is huge for having external blood and single bevs should produce more exits because they are more likely to breach bone.
I've used double bevs for a bunch of years and sometimes blood trails were good and sometimes not so good.
I've used single bevs for at least 10 years now with the same conclusions.
If you go with Grizzlystik, I would recommend the Samurai rather than the Maasai because the convex Maasai blade isn't as easy to sharpen at the straight edge Samurai.
A straight edge takes less energy to penetrate, too.
 
I like the 200 grain Cutthroats and am trying the 200 grain SB Iron Wills with bleeders. This year I have killed with both when I needed the help of a plan B broadhead/arrow.

This is a link to the Cutthroat kill with pictures

The one I killed with the Iron Will I hit just back of the last rib quartering away and the broadhead exited under the opposite side front shoulder. It took a while for this one to die as I hit intestines, stomach and 1 lung. I kept finding shaved hair along the blood trail because the broadhead was cleanly cutting hair off the inside of the front leg. If you look at the front leg in the picture you will see where the broadhead was shaving the leg, that is out of the box sharp. I found the front half of the arrow after about 500 yds and the back half stayed inside the body cavity.

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I used the same 620 gn total arrow weight for both.

I have no complaints about the Cutthroat you can get it shaving sharp even after shooting them into the dirt and they get great rotation. The Iron wills come shaving sharp, are harder and have bleeder blades, my only question on the Iron Will is how much SB rotation do you get with such a short cutting edge. Now that I am tagged out and have a IW broadhead that will need touching up I am going to shoot into a Rinehart target and see how the rotation compares to the Cutthroat.
You should check out John Lusk’s videos on the IW SB. that will answer your question
 
I'm not believing the claim that single bevs dont leave as good a blood trail as double bevs.
Having an exit wound is huge for having external blood and single bevs should produce more exits because they are more likely to breach bone.
I've used double bevs for a bunch of years and sometimes blood trails were good and sometimes not so good.
I've used single bevs for at least 10 years now with the same conclusions.
If you go with Grizzlystik, I would recommend the Samurai rather than the Maasai because the convex Maasai blade isn't as easy to sharpen at the straight edge Samurai.
A straight edge takes less energy to penetrate, too.
My most recent kill with the Maasai was broadside, made a good hit, complete pass thru. There was just not a single drop of blood I could find other than on the arrow and at the site he dropped, which was luckily within earshot.
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My most recent kill with the Maasai was broadside, made a good hit, complete pass thru. There was just not a single drop of blood I could find other than on the arrow and at the site he dropped, which was luckily within earshot.
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I wasn't doubting your experience, but I am doubting the lack of blood trail was due to it being shot with a single bevel. I've had similar experiences to yours with a double bevel...perfect broadside hits with an exit and very little external blood. Sometimes they just don't bleed externally. I wouldn't attribute that to the bevel design.
One aspect that a single bevel would have in it's favor is the angle of the bevel (of a single) does produce a sharper edge when compared with the same smoothness/hone of a double bevel. When sharpened with the same technique, a single is sharper than a double. The finer the edge the less effect on the clotting cascade. Ashby explains the concept better than I just did.
 
Yeah, man, terrible blood trails. Definitely don't want to have to follow these.

Doe

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Doe

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Buck

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Not to mention slicing his heart and breaking his offside leg in the process

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Blood trails are extremely variable no matter the head. Pick one, make it sharp, and shoot it in the right location.
 
5 deer in the last two years with a bow were with SB, Two cases were zero blood until the last 20% of travel before death, two cases were like pouring out of a bucket, one case didn't have enough time to bleed before he died.
 
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