Sling anchors in trees?

[Fairchild#17]

I have a few trees on a property that would be miserable to one stick climb because of all the branches and grapevines. Moving sticks would be doable, but moving a tether constantly to navigate the trunk would be more than I'd want to do.
Has anyone made pre season climbs to attach long term anchors in a tree so that you could leave a paracord preset and send your rappel rope up from the ground? I'm brainstorming ideas.
I fashioned a hook that would be strapped to the tree with paracord routed in such a way that you could send a rope loop up and drop it right onto the hook. It worked perfectly every time I tried it. Even though there is about zero chance that loop ever works its way up off the deep metal hook, the idea it being there has me looking for other options.
Has anyone simple used a large carabiner on a sling and girth hitched it up in the tree for a permanent anchor? Leave the paracord, pull tag end of rope up and through carabiner, run it through the opposite end bight, and cinch it up to the carabiner? Attach retrieval line to the bight and pull down when on the ground.
This seems to work well in testing. Is anyone doing this?

 

[NMSbowhunter]

If I were going to leave something long term in a tree it would either be a paracord preset over a load bearing limb or through a crotch, or a false crotch made out of 3/8 steel cable. For the cable, you'd only have to make one about 3 feet long with 2 loops, one on each end. Pass it around the tree and put one loop through the other. I'd put some sort of friction saver on the loop that was going to have the rope. I haven't done this,but this is about the best idea I can come up with for a long term false crotch system. Anything made of webbing can rot or get chewed through by critters. Steel can rust out over time, but would hold up better than webbing.

 

[VASteve]

CGM (Custom Gear Modifications) makes these... If you search "Crotch Rings" you will find them mentioned a good bit.

Crotch Rings! | Custom Gear Modifica

The Crotch Ring is an easy to use false tree crotch system for rope climbing presets. Just strap the 2 rings at your preferred hight 180 degrees from each other, run a pull line ( we suggest cheap braided masons line) through one, AROUND the tree with both ends at ground level. Then, when ready...

www.customgearmodifications.com

 

[Fairchild#17]

Chain has crossed by mind because of squirrels.

 

[boyne bowhunter]

Unless I'm misunderstanding you're looking to permanently hang a load bearing hook on one side of the tree to hang your rappel rope off of it.

I'd probably setup a paracord loop that goes around the tree, held at height by a non-load bearing hook (CGM Crotch Ring or similar), and use it to run the free end of the rappel rope up, around the tree and back down. Then thread it through the rappel rope loop and pull the girth hitch tight around the tree at height. That way you're not relying on a separate device to carry your weight.

 

[Fairchild#17]

Think of a webbing sling wrapped around the tree with a carabiner left on the sling to run the paracord through.
I see the value of sending the rope around the trunk, but some of these trees are hickory and locust with very rough and scaly bark.
I just DIY’d a crotch ring. It works pretty good.

 

[Horn]

I think one of our members did something similar with PVC and the rope ended up cutting into the PVC, be mindful of that.

 

[Fairchild#17]

I could see mason’s line cutting a notch in PVC. Heck you can saw through a pipe in no time with it on purpose because it’s hard and abrasive.
I’d think paracord on a slow steady pull would get you a few years of use without issue.
Good thinking though.

 

[Center Punch]

Spoiler Alert! I know next to nothing about what you're doing here as I only hunt Public Land and leave nothing out overnight 99% of the time.

With that said.

Can you replace the above pictured with Dog Chain and QuickLink Chain Connectors?
Three QuickLinks for each set. One used to connect the two ends of chain. Two used in place of the PVC.
$45 for 16 PreSets and it's sure to last many years.

Wouldn't that solve all the problems mentioned here?

 

[Fairchild#17]

The chain part is too light and dangerous for my original question, and unnecessarily strong but perhaps more permanent for the crotch ring idea.

The quick links might work for rings. Not sure if they would fold flat against the tree and become an issue or not? The always open rigidity of the conduit makes that hard to beat if it stands up to repeated use.

I’m going to try paracord to hang the conduit pieces and see how that behaves.

 

[Center Punch]

I'm mostly tracking you now.

Thank you.

 

[Fairchild#17]

Honestly on some of these private land trees I could just screw in and leave eye screws for “crotch rings”. Again, just to guide my rope, not bear any weight.

 

[Fairchild#17]

These can be found for about two dollars apiece. Supposedly stainless steel. A three-quarter inch flat strap would keep them snuggly in place. So you could set these crotch ring anchors wherever you wanted for about five dollars apiece.

 

[Brocky]

A strap, or paracord holding up whatever piece, or pieces of hardware, will also be vulnerable to squirrel, or mice gnawing.

 

[Fairchild#17]

A strap, or paracord holding up whatever piece, or pieces of hardware, will also be vulnerable to squirrel, or mice gnawing.

But you’re not trusting your life with it. Squirrels chew that false crotch ring and it’s just an inconvenience, not a threat to life.

 

[rutjr]

I have left paracord in the crotch of a tree where both ends are on the ground so when I come back in the morning I attach one end to my repel line and pull it over the crotch and back to me and use it to climb.

I have seen a guy leave screw in hooks that he attached his bridge to once he is up to his spot.

 

[Coachschaller]

I tie a large pvc coupling to the trunk using paracord. I put the aluminum tape around the edges so the paracord doesn't saw into the pvc. I run my preset paracord trough the pvc and around the trunk. When I get to the tree I tie on my climbing rope to the paracord and pull it up and around the trunk. Always use the trunk, not the pvc false crotch as weight bearing. The maverick hitch is what I use to canopy anchor to the tree.

 

[Fairchild#17]

I tie a large pvc coupling to the trunk using paracord. I put the aluminum tape around the edges so the paracord doesn't saw into the pvc. I run my preset paracord trough the pvc and around the trunk. When I get to the tree I tie on my climbing rope to the paracord and pull it up and around the trunk. Always use the trunk, not the pvc false crotch as weight bearing. The maverick hitch is what I use to canopy anchor to the tree.

I didn't realize this was even a concept until I started looking into it. Seems some of you fellas beat me to it. Do you just use one coupling on the back of the tree? I tried paracord yesterday with the two pieces of pipe and it worked great. You can get it really tight with the correct hitch.
Have you tried his Bloodgood hitch on the rappel rope? It's pretty awesome and really simple.

 

[Coachschaller]

I didn't realize this was even a concept until I started looking into it. Seems some of you fellas beat me to it. Do you just use one coupling on the back of the tree? I tried paracord yesterday with the two pieces of pipe and it worked great. You can get it really tight with the correct hitch.
Have you tried his Bloodgood hitch on the rappel rope? It's pretty awesome and really simple.

I have just been using one coupling on the backside of the tree. I have not used the bloodgood hitch yet. I still like the maverick and it is remote release. I can't remember if the bloodgood is remote release.

 

[Fairchild#17]

Really excited about this method

Bloodgood is not a clean explosion in the tree, but it is highly retrievable.
You can make the bloodgood explode and I’ve played with a removable toggle a fair bit that I would trust, but I won’t show it or recommend it to others because it could be dangerous if it’s done sloppy.
The way JRB shows in his video makes it very easily retrievable