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Some cold smoked and dry aged venison summer sausage

Jgetch

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It’s all hanging now developing flavor (aka letting the mold grow) and getting the moisture content down. Looking for a 30-40% reduction in water weight over a 20-30 day dry age. Can’t wait to move into our new house in two months. I’ll have a dedicated climate controlled aging room and the adventures will really get going.


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Beauties!

Haven't seen you on here in awhile. Where ya been?

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Beauties!

Haven't seen you on here in awhile. Where ya been?

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Busy, busy, busy. Typical life stuff. Kids and work. Besides that we had so much snow up here in Wisconsin after the season ended there wasn’t any opportunities for working on saddle stuff. Woods are opened back up now though. You’ll see me around again.
 
Rich folks can keep their fancy wine cellars. I'll take a climate controlled aging room with the rafters full of hanging meat.
 
So what kind of setup do you have now? I've always wanted to try curing meats, but have no idea what you need in terms of space and equipment to maintain the proper conditions.

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So what kind of setup do you have now? I've always wanted to try curing meats, but have no idea what you need in terms of space and equipment to maintain the proper conditions.

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Equipment is just the usual sausage gear. Grinder, mixer, stuffer. For a cold smoker this time we used my pop up ice shanty with the smoker set up inside of it and a couple racks we made to hang the meat. I don’t think I’ll ever build a permanent cold smoker again after trying that. A larger tent would be nice so that I can stand up straight and walk around in there but the tent worked great and temps stayed between 35-60.

Now for the question about the aging process. I think it’s first necessary to realize that generations of humans aged meat wherever they had room. Wether that was a cellar or an extra room or even in a cool valley from the tree outside the door as the used to do in Italy. The most important part isn’t the temp, humidity or even the sanitation of the area your hanging, although it goes without saying that we want to keep things clean here. This particular batch has been aging in my basement at a temp of about 65 degrees and 35% humidity per my dehumidifier. Different sausages call for different temps and humidities but these factors are not based on what someone figured out in a climate controlled hanging room but rather on the local temps and humidities of the places where these sausages were developed in generations past. Another words they just hung the sausage where they could. In order to make sure the meat is safe to eat after subjecting you sausage to a controlled rot is all about how the sausage is prepped. I won’t give advice on which cure except to advise that you buy a book that details the rules of charcuterie. But you need to add cute and I also use a starter culture. The starter culture insures that the good bacteria (white mold) gets a head start over the bad (any other color). While hanging if you do get any mold on the meat that isn’t white just wet a paper towel with white vinegar and wipe the intrusive mold off. Checking daily ensures that nothing gets out of hand. Depending on how dry or ripe you want you sausage you want to lose anywhere from 30-50% of the overall weight. For the snack sticks I pulled them at 40% loss and the summer sausage I’ll be pulling at 30%. The summer takes longer while loading less weight because it is thicker.

So in summary: cold smoker is anything that holds smoke and you can hang them just about anywhere you have room but I’d stay below 70 degrees and you want to eliminate sunlight as well in most cases.

Pm me if you have any more specific questions.
 
The summer sausage was just about at weight on Sunday so I’m hoping it’ll be ready to pull tomorrow for a try. I was hoping to hang it longer but at 35% humidity it’s drying out quicker then I wanted. I’ll post picks if I get to take it down.
 
Equipment is just the usual sausage gear. Grinder, mixer, stuffer. For a cold smoker this time we used my pop up ice shanty with the smoker set up inside of it and a couple racks we made to hang the meat. I don’t think I’ll ever build a permanent cold smoker again after trying that. A larger tent would be nice so that I can stand up straight and walk around in there but the tent worked great and temps stayed between 35-60.

Now for the question about the aging process. I think it’s first necessary to realize that generations of humans aged meat wherever they had room. Wether that was a cellar or an extra room or even in a cool valley from the tree outside the door as the used to do in Italy. The most important part isn’t the temp, humidity or even the sanitation of the area your hanging, although it goes without saying that we want to keep things clean here. This particular batch has been aging in my basement at a temp of about 65 degrees and 35% humidity per my dehumidifier. Different sausages call for different temps and humidities but these factors are not based on what someone figured out in a climate controlled hanging room but rather on the local temps and humidities of the places where these sausages were developed in generations past. Another words they just hung the sausage where they could. In order to make sure the meat is safe to eat after subjecting you sausage to a controlled rot is all about how the sausage is prepped. I won’t give advice on which cure except to advise that you buy a book that details the rules of charcuterie. But you need to add cute and I also use a starter culture. The starter culture insures that the good bacteria (white mold) gets a head start over the bad (any other color). While hanging if you do get any mold on the meat that isn’t white just wet a paper towel with white vinegar and wipe the intrusive mold off. Checking daily ensures that nothing gets out of hand. Depending on how dry or ripe you want you sausage you want to lose anywhere from 30-50% of the overall weight. For the snack sticks I pulled them at 40% loss and the summer sausage I’ll be pulling at 30%. The summer takes longer while loading less weight because it is thicker.

So in summary: cold smoker is anything that holds smoke and you can hang them just about anywhere you have room but I’d stay below 70 degrees and you want to eliminate sunlight as well in most cases.

Pm me if you have any more specific questions.
Thanks for the information.

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Equipment is just the usual sausage gear. Grinder, mixer, stuffer. For a cold smoker this time we used my pop up ice shanty with the smoker set up inside of it and a couple racks we made to hang the meat. I don’t think I’ll ever build a permanent cold smoker again after trying that. A larger tent would be nice so that I can stand up straight and walk around in there but the tent worked great and temps stayed between 35-60.

Now for the question about the aging process. I think it’s first necessary to realize that generations of humans aged meat wherever they had room. Wether that was a cellar or an extra room or even in a cool valley from the tree outside the door as the used to do in Italy. The most important part isn’t the temp, humidity or even the sanitation of the area your hanging, although it goes without saying that we want to keep things clean here. This particular batch has been aging in my basement at a temp of about 65 degrees and 35% humidity per my dehumidifier. Different sausages call for different temps and humidities but these factors are not based on what someone figured out in a climate controlled hanging room but rather on the local temps and humidities of the places where these sausages were developed in generations past. Another words they just hung the sausage where they could. In order to make sure the meat is safe to eat after subjecting you sausage to a controlled rot is all about how the sausage is prepped. I won’t give advice on which cure except to advise that you buy a book that details the rules of charcuterie. But you need to add cute and I also use a starter culture. The starter culture insures that the good bacteria (white mold) gets a head start over the bad (any other color). While hanging if you do get any mold on the meat that isn’t white just wet a paper towel with white vinegar and wipe the intrusive mold off. Checking daily ensures that nothing gets out of hand. Depending on how dry or ripe you want you sausage you want to lose anywhere from 30-50% of the overall weight. For the snack sticks I pulled them at 40% loss and the summer sausage I’ll be pulling at 30%. The summer takes longer while loading less weight because it is thicker.

So in summary: cold smoker is anything that holds smoke and you can hang them just about anywhere you have room but I’d stay below 70 degrees and you want to eliminate sunlight as well in most cases.

Pm me if you have any more specific questions.

Thanks for the run down. Been wanting to try, read books, but always thought I needed that perfect space and conditions lest I kill us all.


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So, the snack sticks turned out awesome like they always do. I swear there’s no way to mess those up. Switch up seasoning, length of smoking and even the mix of meats, no matter what I do every time they’re great. Simple recipe too! Meat (mix of pork and venison although I’ve used straight pork and that’s also fantastic) mix well with seasoning and correct cure ratio (for our purposes cure #2 because we’ll never reach cooking temp when cold smoking. Also if your using any pork make sure it’s certified). Cold smoke for 1-7 days and then hang in a cool (less then 60°) until it’s dried to your preference. It’s that simple and everything from straight Italian seasoning to Hungarian hot sticks have turned out great for us.

Now, the summer is a different animal and we haven’t dialed that in completely yet and this year is a definite miss. Because of the moisture content I was forced to pull them from aging early so as you can see in the pics they are substantially raw both in look and mouth feel. Although I’m actually ok with it as I prefer things on the raw side including tar tar, wildcat, or for some cannibal sandwiches, it isn’t the preferred taste and mouth feel for the rest of the group and I’m sure it wouldn’t be very popular cutting for a sausage tray at thanksgiving this year. So I’m trying a fix. I’m currently doing the old back woods sou vide technique on a few sticks to see if that can “save” the batch. Sou vide=cooking in at temperature water. Basically i boiled a bunch of water and put it in a cooler and then tempered the water down to 160°. Put the vacu sealed sausage in the cooler and shut the lid. I will then cooled shock after 1 hour.
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Hopefully it works!!


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I have some in the frig now that I’m going to smoke tomorrow. Never tried the cold smoke method

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