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Stabilizer Vs. No Stabilizer

I've always incorporated some kind of stabilizer into my system. In the past with older bows I used them primarily for vibration dampening. I do think they help with keeping my bows more stable. I don't necessarily enjoy the added weight for practice sessions but in the deer woods it gives me some confidence.
 
For ppl who say the stab helps so much what kind of groups and distances are we talking with broadheads. What is considered a good group? How much of an improvement are we talking about? 1" better? 5" better? I'm shooting about a softball sized group at 50yds with broadheads. No stab. Mathews v3 27 - 27.5" draw - 243 fps - about a 500 grain arrow.
 
For most tree hunters it's pointless.because it's effects .a stabilizer that is.only become nessasery at a distance with finneky speed bows . And on windy days.Most people don't shoot that far .but if you have ever seen a rosivelt at 60 yards in the wind and rain.its boiler maker is the size of a car door.you feel like you can make that shot.it comes into play.but for shooting deer out of a tree at 35 or less.its pointless. Infact half of the saccuracy stuff is poontless.and if it's not and it helps at 20 .than the bow needs tuned
 
The desert of Eastern Oregon guys practice shooting 100 yards.and will take an 80. At rocky mountain elk and mueldeer.and the wind gets crazy.those guys need stabilizers and 7 pin sites.and it dose reduce your group size consistantly.at a distance.but if you don't need it why have it.my self ID go long or not at all.shortys don't do anything
 
For ppl who say the stab helps so much what kind of groups and distances are we talking with broadheads. What is considered a good group? How much of an improvement are we talking about? 1" better? 5" better? I'm shooting about a softball sized group at 50yds with broadheads. No stab. Mathews v3 27 - 27.5" draw - 243 fps - about a 500 grain arrow.

Without stabs, my group at 50 yrds broadheads is about softball too, but with a stab/sidestab/quiver on. My grouping is golfball size. Felt really good that I had to start shooting at different target so I dont destroy my arrows. I was more steady, my pin float tighten up, there are a lot less vibration, and my setup is really quiet.

But no, at 20-30 yards, you do not need that much accuracy and its an acceptable tradeoff.

I also think that you have to consider your bow, the V3 basically HAS a stab due to the harmonic tech.
 
For ppl who say the stab helps so much what kind of groups and distances are we talking with broadheads. What is considered a good group? How much of an improvement are we talking about? 1" better? 5" better? I'm shooting about a softball sized group at 50yds with broadheads. No stab. Mathews v3 27 - 27.5" draw - 243 fps - about a 500 grain arrow.
You could go from soft ball to inside a Dixie cup.with a 8 inch stabilizer at 50.but do you feel the need to .
 
Great setup, I'm actually more interested in how drastic your arrows length seem to be. Can you explain why? I understand broadheads for all different games. But what with the noticeability different length?
 
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