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STOP DOING THIS

In PA, the law requires the carcass to be be brought back home whole. It sounds like a good law. Too many people don't want to drag a deer. Good exercise.
Edit: I was wrong on this, I think, as others pointed out. I am not sure how many legal problems I could get into by packing out the meat and not removing the carcass. I am sure if there were questions, there would be more than I would like to deal with.
 
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In PA, the law requires the carcass to be be brought back home whole. It sounds like a good law. Too many people don't want to drag a deer. Good exercise.
Dragging a deer out is one of my favorite parts of all of this. Even though I'm middle aged and out of shape, and my heart feels like it is going to explode every 20 yards. It makes me stop, turn around, and marvel at what is causing me so much consternation. I stare at it while letting my heart settle and think how awesome it is, no matter how big.

Maybe it's because I'm still new. Maybe because I have so many hunts with no sightings. Dragging it out reminds me I'm a deer hunter, not a nature walker and tree climber. It means I'm going home successful to show to my family and to create many delicious meals.
 
Dragging a deer out is one of my favorite parts of all of this. Even though I'm middle aged and out of shape, and my heart feels like it is going to explode every 20 yards. It makes me stop, turn around, and marvel at what is causing me so much consternation. I stare at it while letting my heart settle and think how awesome it is, no matter how big.

Maybe it's because I'm still new. Maybe because I have so many hunts with no sightings. Dragging it out reminds me I'm a deer hunter, not a nature walker and tree climber. It means I'm going home successful to show to my family and to create many delicious meals.
very well said!
 
A while back I was driving down the road and there was a gator hit by a car on the side of the road. My buddy said he was surprised nobody had grabbed it yet. Couple hours later on our way back the tail was gone
 
If this truly was a situation where the deer was dispatched for humane purposes (hit by a car and suffering etc....) then I guess I am ok with that because at least some of it is being used. However, if somebody just shot and took the backstraps, that would be considered "wanton waste" and NY now has new laws against that. You can't just shoot deer and let them rot etc. You may want to check into that state's game laws. According to our ECO's many states have or are adopting these wanton waste laws to prevent this kind of behavior. I know NY is also on the 10 States (and I think it has expanded to perhaps 30 states now) so if you get a GLV in one state and you lose you're license because of it, you will be unable to hunt in the other 29 states as well.
 
In PA, the law requires the carcass to be be brought back home whole. It sounds like a good law. Too many people don't want to drag a deer. Good exercise.

100% false. You can process them at the kill site, your home, or anywhere in between. And unfortunately we don't have a wanton waste law so as long as the animal was properly tagged this kind of debased debauchery is completely legal. There are littering statutes that can be applied in some cases depending where the carcass was dumped.
 
100% false. You can process them at the kill site, your home, or anywhere in between. And unfortunately we don't have a wanton waste law so as long as the animal was properly tagged this kind of debased debauchery is completely legal. There are littering statutes that can be applied in some cases depending where the carcass was dumped.
I looked at the regs and you seem to be right. I guess I'll just cut out the back straps and leave the carcass from now on. Not.
I am not sure who has to prove whether I shot a buck or a doe. I guess if my license is filled out correctly and I have a pack full of meat I will have no trouble but I am not so sure of that. I would rather not find out the hard way.
 
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Normally where I live (WI) people dump the carcass and hides in the public hunting parking lots (illegal and I think it is easier to just put it in my trash). When things like this occur, it is normally car kill deer.

Our wanton waste laws only allow dumping of meat for positive cwd test or in bear positive trich test. Otherwise it is supposed to be consumed.

Personally I don't think this was a hunter or what I would consider a hunter. Poachers aren't hunters in my opinion and should be prosecuted to fullest extent of the law!!!


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In PA, the law requires the carcass to be be brought back home whole. It sounds like a good law. Too many people don't want to drag a deer. Good exercise.
I strongly disagree. I've field dressed dozens of deer where they died to no ill effect. And in a few more years field dressing will likely be the only way my dad can get one out of the woods.

The solution isn't more government, it's better people. Every time
 
I strongly disagree. I've field dressed dozens of deer where they died to no ill effect. And in a few more years field dressing will likely be the only way my dad can get one out of the woods.

The solution isn't more government, it's better people. Every time
To keep terminology straight, I believe most states that require a whole carcass allow for field dressing/gutting.

Quartering or butchering in the field and packing out are different matters (and quartering is sometimes explicitly allowed) (and in many cases remote registration has kind of "accidentally " legalized this.
 
I strongly disagree. I've field dressed dozens of deer where they died to no ill effect. And in a few more years field dressing will likely be the only way my dad can get one out of the woods.

The solution isn't more government, it's better people. Every time
In the olden days, the game warden wanted to know if you shot a legal buck or an illegal doe. The only way to be sure was to remove the animal whole, field dressed, of course. If everyone was honest, then anything would be OK.
Edit: I thought field dressed meant gutted but now I don't know.
 
In the olden days, the game warden wanted to know if you shot a legal buck or an illegal doe. The only way to be sure was to remove the animal whole, field dressed, of course. If everyone was honest, then anything would be OK.
Edit: I thought field dressed meant gutted but now I don't know.
Game warden still wants to know that info. Alabama has an e-check system that probably works as well as anything. Some folks will lie no matter what. We technically have to have proof of sex, which is as simple as including genitalia on a ham when you field dress (quarter, for me) a deer.

If the warden wants my whole deer, he is going to help with the drag. Or we can come up with a system where he gets the info and I'm not doing his gruntwork for him and paying him at the same time. Shoot, I'm happy to take a picture with a timestamp for him. But I'm not bringing out a deer 2 miles unless there's a 4 wheeler involved. Call me lazy, but I have no need for that exercise. GW does, then he can do it.
 
In Wisconsin, we can quarter but need to bring out the chest cavity with neck and head attached. So the quarter is actually 5 pieces. I was going to try it this year but didn't have the money for the Mystery ranch beartooth and now it is sold out online from them.

I think this is a stupid solution for sex identification. They are also worried about the spread of CWD with bones left behind I guess. Ironically, they allow baiting in a good portion of the state, which will probably spread it faster.

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With CWD in PA, they would rather not have the head and spine leave the counties that have deer with CWD. I read there are deer dumpsters in those areas for those parts. I hunt in an area without CWD.
 
In PA, the law requires the carcass to be be brought back home whole. It sounds like a good law. Too many people don't want to drag a deer. Good exercise.
I just read the game laws for transportation of deer and no where does it say that it has to be taken home hole. It does say that if you are transporting parts of a deer and if you are stop by the game Commission you must give them the name of the person who harvest the game if it isn't your deer. If your the one that harvested the deer I would just have the tag. The person who did that wasted good meat and it's a disgrace.
 
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Just had a couple of wardens stop by here.

Apparently they/someone found "nice 6 point" buck yesterday midafternoon about a quarter-mile away. Double-lung passthrough that wasn't recovered. Weird deal.
 
I don't like people killing things and wasting them. Americans waste something like 40-60% of the food that is produced or imported into this country, depending on who you ask.

As I've gotten to know hunters, by and large they're just like the rest of the population, with a different hobby. So my guess, is that hunters waste somewhere around half the food they buy. And being hunters, we know they eat meat. That means that some of that food is meat. Which means that hunters indirectly ended an animal's life, then didn't consume it, or enough of it to meet the arbitrary bar we're placing here.

I take a slightly different stance - I'm with you that it makes me sick to my stomach to see someone waste, and especially the message that would send to non hunters who happened upon the scene, but I try not to judge. I suspect that whole of team hunter is responsible for an insane amount of wasted animal suffering.
 
I would love to catch somebody doing this sometime!! They need there ass kicked!!

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