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Tethrd One Climbing Sticks

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Having to replace my own pins bothered me. I appreciate that they sent replacements, but the steps were so frustrating to try to put together with the original pins....how could they not have known that this would be a big deal?

But the most annoying thing to me was that every had no offering or plan for an aider! What the hell?!? They could have made TONS of extra money up front by designing and releasing one in tandem with the steps. Instead they had this ridiculous method of attaching a bungee between aider ends to hold it on.

As a result, I took my 2 step amsteel aider from EWO that has spliced eyes at the top and girth hitched them around each final end block of the bottom step. It worked well. Had Tethrd simply released this aider they would have made lots of money and given everyone something that they would want to use the moment they get climbing sticks.

I'm just shocked at the lack of preparedness. I don't understand.

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I seen 1 of the "prototype" aiders in person and I personally thought it was a pretty slick idea to use shock cord to keep the loops on the step. I also seen the destructive tested stick in person and I didn't see any glue fail at all...the titanium tubing buckled above the rope attachment and there wasn't any damage to steps/roll pin/glue. Steps had no play/wiggle
 
I seen 1 of the "prototype" aiders in person and I personally thought it was a pretty slick idea to use shock cord to keep the loops on the step. I also seen the destructive tested stick in person and I didn't see any glue fail at all...the titanium tubing buckled above the rope attachment and there wasn't any damage to steps/roll pin/glue. Steps had no play/wiggle
This tells me a few things.
1) i've always considered published testing protocols very Insufficient. Small safety factors and narrowly-prescribed loading. They're more of CYA thing so that manufacturers have a cheap liability shield.
2) we're seeing different failures in routine use.

The failures from testing are what we should see if everything works correctly.

The impression is that either their QA is off and not catching serious defects, or real-world use is much different from the test protocol. Neither is praticularly comforting.
 
This tells me a few things.
1) i've always considered published testing protocols very Insufficient. Small safety factors and narrowly-prescribed loading. They're more of CYA thing so that manufacturers have a cheap liability shield.
2) we're seeing different failures in routine use.

The failures from testing are what we should see if everything works correctly.

The impression is that either their QA is off and not catching serious defects, or real-world use is much different from the test protocol. Neither is praticularly comforting.

Or who knows what kind of temperatures or how long these sat in a shipping container for. The ones I had had a aug 20 date on them.

Also, good luck controlling the glue application in a Chinese sweatshop.
 
The way it was described to me was the machine was attached to the outer tips of the top step and the load is applied at a slight angle away from the "trunk"
I honestly don't really give a darn....I would like to see all the saddle manufacturing peeps succeed and everybody have access to quality gear. I'll never own any but IMO the tethrd sticks are very nice. Better than all the other? That is gonna be a personal preference. Api sticks would be my choice if I was looking for sticks. If u drive a fairly new vehicle, glue "chemical weld" is used all throughout ur car from body panels to engine and transmission components....and with a live/solid axle all the power from ur vehicle goes thru the differential cross pin that is held in by a teeny tiny roll pin...good luck to all the manufacturers and all u guys can have fun throwing money.
 
Almost pulled the trigger yesterday. I decide when my friends gets his and try them out.

Doesn’t look like availability will be an issue as it has in the past. They’ve not sold out since they became available, so that’s an improvement from when I last ordered something from them.


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Doesn’t look like availability will be an issue as it has in the past. They’ve not sold out since they became available, so that’s an improvement from when I last ordered something from them.


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They have get gear and would use them and recommend them to anyone
 
Got mine out again today. After all the fuss I wanted to test the glue out on the bottom step. I put pressure on both sides and had my wife watch. Then I made her try it while I watched. The step definitely moves slightly on the roll pin. Not sure it's a huge issue but does kinda worry me a bit.
 
The way it was described to me was the machine was attached to the outer tips of the top step and the load is applied at a slight angle away from the "trunk"
I honestly don't really give a darn....I would like to see all the saddle manufacturing peeps succeed and everybody have access to quality gear. I'll never own any but IMO the tethrd sticks are very nice. Better than all the other? That is gonna be a personal preference. Api sticks would be my choice if I was looking for sticks. If u drive a fairly new vehicle, glue "chemical weld" is used all throughout ur car from body panels to engine and transmission components....and with a live/solid axle all the power from ur vehicle goes thru the differential cross pin that is held in by a teeny tiny roll pin...good luck to all the manufacturers and all u guys can have fun throwing money.
I’ll drive up one day and you can climb with mine. I’m retired...nothing else to do
 
So many guys in this thread with a hard on for hating on these sticks. I’ve seen beast sticks standoffs fail, XOP sticks fail, LWCG sticks fail. I own a handful of other brands and just got the One sticks in before the weekend.

The wife wanted them so we spent quite a bit of time beating on them to get a feel for if we liked them better than what else we have. We came to the conclusion that the one sticks and LWCG minis with cable aiders is what we will be using. I’ve had zero issue with the pins the sticks came with, and really don’t find any issue with putting them back together. The weight is actually surprising as to how light it truly is. Stand off distance was not a problem for either of us, and I was more worried with her as she is very new to this style of hunting. It feels like a very quality piece of equipment right out of the box.
Being that they are shorter step to step sticks, I think 4-5 sticks or using an aider is almost a necessity. They are just so light and pack so darn well, that isn’t a problem for us. The attachment method is slick as well.

As far as modifications go, I don’t see any need to do anything different than what I do to EVERY set of sticks I’ve ever bought. Stealth strips, and one of the genesis 3d printing bungee cords to keep the rope in place while packing. I like the idea of a rubber stopper in the tube, but don’t find it necessary per say.

My only real complaint would be the angle on the step. It wasn’t as comfortable as I would’ve liked, but I don’t plan to be taking a long nap standing on my sticks so I will get over it.

I’ve watched plenty of YouTube videos of guys on this forum climbing trees with multiple sticks, sticks with aiders, one sticking etc. Maybe should spend more time learning how to climb a tree quietly and patiently than looking like a circus performer. Can’t imagine it equates to a whole lot of deer killing.
 
So many guys in this thread with a hard on for hating on these sticks. I’ve seen beast sticks standoffs fail, XOP sticks fail, LWCG sticks fail. I own a handful of other brands and just got the One sticks in before the weekend........

I’ve watched plenty of YouTube videos of guys on this forum climbing trees with multiple sticks, sticks with aiders, one sticking etc. Maybe should spend more time learning how to climb a tree quietly and patiently than looking like a circus performer. Can’t imagine it equates to a whole lot of deer killing.

I don't really see that. The sticks got a ton of love at the beginning of the thread (before release), some of the folks who posted with excited got them, and are sharing thoughts and experiences (good and bad) including the issue of glue failure. Should folks not mention that the glue failed on their sticks?

Overall, this is one of the more open minded and on subject threads I've read with people weighing in with different opinions, experiences, and areas of knowledge, although your last paragraph doesn't really fit that tone.
 
I don't really see that. The sticks got a ton of love at the beginning of the thread (before release), some of the folks who posted with excited got them, and are sharing thoughts and experiences (good and bad) including the issue of glue failure. Should folks not mention that the glue failed on their sticks?

The glue failure video I saw was what gave me initial hesitation to buy. I am around 185# and my wife closer to 120#, so I had less fear of it being an issue for us, considering the additional pin that prevented a total failure for the guy in the video.

I would have to guess that the company would replace the stick as that seems like a warrantable failure? Has there been any follow up on that. Was it one person that experienced a glue failure or many?

If I had to replace my last paragraph, I would say that I don't find these sticks to make any more or any less noise than any other stick I have climbed with in the last 10 years, in the way that I climb the tree (patiently, quietly). I don't tap sticks together to see how much noise they make, drop them to the ground, etc. I would say that with them being shorter, they are easier to handle when hanging from the tree than a longer stick.

Better?
 
The glue failure video I saw was what gave me initial hesitation to buy. I am around 185# and my wife closer to 120#, so I had less fear of it being an issue for us, considering the additional pin that prevented a total failure for the guy in the video.

I would have to guess that the company would replace the stick as that seems like a warrantable failure? Has there been any follow up on that. Was it one person that experienced a glue failure or many?

If I had to replace my last paragraph, I would say that I don't find these sticks to make any more or any less noise than any other stick I have climbed with in the last 10 years, in the way that I climb the tree (patiently, quietly). I don't tap sticks together to see how much noise they make, drop them to the ground, etc. I would say that with them being shorter, they are easier to handle when hanging from the tree than a longer stick.

Better?

There has been 3 sticks that I have seen with broken glue. The sticks in the referred video were returned to Tethrd.
 
We have broken sticks within using them 1 time. We haven't even starting hunting with them yet. The metal cooling and heating from hunting, then throwing them in a warm vehicle at the end of the day. The constant pressure on the glue from setting the sticks all the time. I absolutely believe it's a matter of when, not if, the glue breaks. That said, I'm keeping mine because I do like them. Every company has a dudd from time to time. All I'm concerned about is how they're going to treat people who have problems. Will they replace the stick? Or say you were using them wrong?
 
The glue failure video I saw was what gave me initial hesitation to buy. I am around 185# and my wife closer to 120#, so I had less fear of it being an issue for us, considering the additional pin that prevented a total failure for the guy in the video.

I would have to guess that the company would replace the stick as that seems like a warrantable failure? Has there been any follow up on that. Was it one person that experienced a glue failure or many?

If I had to replace my last paragraph, I would say that I don't find these sticks to make any more or any less noise than any other stick I have climbed with in the last 10 years, in the way that I climb the tree (patiently, quietly). I don't tap sticks together to see how much noise they make, drop them to the ground, etc. I would say that with them being shorter, they are easier to handle when hanging from the tree than a longer stick.

Better?

There have been a few people reporting glue failure in this thread. I don't know if anyone has sought replacement under warranty. I posted warranty info on another thread and believe the glue would be covered by Tethrd's one year from date of purchase warranty (for manufacturer's defect). The chemical weld was reportedly the structural component for standoff connection.

As for some of the other criticisms, there is info supporting multiple points of view.

For example, noise. There is video of a pro-staffer saying "Why couldn’t they design these things to be quieter-jeez" while hanging a stick, there are folks saying they can be quieted quite a bit with end caps or plugs, there are folks saying they always manage to bang them separating sticks but they're fine otherwise, and still others who say all sticks are noisy and just learn not to bang them dummies.

And for standoff distance: folks saying they've just as much foot room as hawks so there's plenty, and others saying they could see them not working for folks with bigger feet, they are "usable," as well as foot room "sucks."

Like other gear, there will be some subjectivity in a review. I think the ground is getting covered pretty well, and the more data points the better a decision a consumer can make. So, I appreciated your weighing in too.
 
We have broken sticks within using them 1 time. We haven't even starting hunting with them yet. The metal cooling and heating from hunting, then throwing them in a warm vehicle at the end of the day. The constant pressure on the glue from setting the sticks all the time. I absolutely believe it's a matter of when, not if, the glue breaks. That said, I'm keeping mine because I do like them. Every company has a dudd from time to time. All I'm concerned about is how they're going to treat people who have problems. Will they replace the stick? Or say you were using them wrong?

Would be most interested to hear SOMETHING from the company about this. I am sure at this point they are aware.
 
We have broken sticks within using them 1 time. We haven't even starting hunting with them yet. The metal cooling and heating from hunting, then throwing them in a warm vehicle at the end of the day. The constant pressure on the glue from setting the sticks all the time. I absolutely believe it's a matter of when, not if, the glue breaks. That said, I'm keeping mine because I do like them. Every company has a dudd from time to time. All I'm concerned about is how they're going to treat people who have problems. Will they replace the stick? Or say you were using them wrong?

I'm confident they will replace...for 1 year from date of purchase. After that, it would be, imo, right if they did but not required by policy.
 
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