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Tethrd Skeletors

Great mod[mention]Krumpf [/mention] I ordered skeletors this weekend and will be doing this!


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inarcher711 said:
Great mod[mention]Krumpf [/mention] I ordered skeletors this weekend and will be doing this!


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That’s great to hear! Let me know if you have any questions I can help with! (Pretty self explanatory, but happy to help if I can!)
 
After being told that Tethrd will not replace the badly designed lower standoffs except under warranty if you bend them first, I sent them a reply today explaining why this is unacceptable to me

Will see how they respond.
 
Krumpf said:
That’s great to hear! Let me know if you have any questions I can help with! (Pretty self explanatory, but happy to help if I can!)
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Love the idea and thanks for the great video.

Any concerns about the amsteel passing through the holes in the shaft, that the 90 degree angle and sharper edges of the holes might start to wear through the 1/8" amsteel a bit more quickly?

I'm thinking I might adapt your design, but maybe use some thin bungie cord at the top end to loop around something (maybe a single bolt or extended one somewhere) rather than add the weight of two bolts and 4 nuts per stick.

When creating the locked brummel in the loop, you mentioned you would bury the ends back into themselves. I think a proper buried brummel splice for a loop, you bury the ends in the opposite piece and not themselves?
 
After reading through this thread I’m not sure I’ll buy Tethrd sticks. Two new sticks both with problems. The lack of communication on the One Sticks is super weird to me. Then another new stick with problems kinda sucks. Any other companies have a rough start with some new products then get better?
Would love to try the new One Sticks whenever they come out but losing my confidence in them. A bummer for sure.
 
tarafrost said:
Love the idea and thanks for the great video.

Any concerns about the amsteel passing through the holes in the shaft, that the 90 degree angle and sharper edges of the holes might start to wear through the 1/8" amsteel a bit more quickly?

I'm thinking I might adapt your design, but maybe use some thin bungie cord at the top end to loop around something (maybe a single bolt or extended one somewhere) rather than add the weight of two bolts and 4 nuts per stick.

When creating the locked brummel in the loop, you mentioned you would bury the ends back into themselves. I think a proper buried brummel splice for a loop, you bury the ends in the opposite piece and not themselves?
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I posed a similar question about Amsteel in this configuration. He doesn't seem worried.

No matter, the concept is very modifiable.

Frankly, I liked the wire aider concept better. I don't know if it is safe/possible to put a fastener through the center of the stick for the cable aider "teardrop" to ride on, what fastener would work, and how stacking would be effected. If I had the sticks, I'd probably explore something like that. Could be a dead end.

Also, wire fastenings. Were there a spreader that didn't give away strength, with a bumper on the bottom, that could perhaps be the ticket.

The one problem with TN retractable aiders is they sit close to the tree, making them difficult to use. I can't tell exactly how these Skeletor Amsteel aiders will function in that respect, as I don't know the distance to the post.

I did wonder with this Amsteel system if you could rig shock cord or something to the aider and pull them up to the keepers after ascending them, and step into them (with the overhanging stirrup) before deploying them on the way down so you don't have to fish for your step as well as to avoid aiders blowing in the wind.

Don't have the sticks to toy with and don't plan to switch from what I've got even though I like a lot of what's being offered.

Pretty imaginative diy. Should be interesting to see what others come up with.
 
tarafrost said:
After being told that Tethrd will not replace the badly designed lower standoffs except under warranty if you bend them first, I sent them a reply today explaining why this is unacceptable to me

Will see how they respond.
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Didn't @Krumpf in his video say they replaced his?
 
Bowtie747 said:
After reading through this thread I’m not sure I’ll buy Tethrd sticks. Two new sticks both with problems. The lack of communication on the One Sticks is super weird to me. Then another new stick with problems kinda sucks. Any other companies have a rough start with some new products then get better?
Would love to try the new One Sticks whenever they come out but losing my confidence in them. A bummer for sure.
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Yes, other companies have had issues with new products and got them up to speed. Different ways that has gone done to the satisfaction or dissatisfaction of the customers.
 
tarafrost said:
Love the idea and thanks for the great video.

Any concerns about the amsteel passing through the holes in the shaft, that the 90 degree angle and sharper edges of the holes might start to wear through the 1/8" amsteel a bit more quickly?

I'm thinking I might adapt your design, but maybe use some thin bungie cord at the top end to loop around something (maybe a single bolt or extended one somewhere) rather than add the weight of two bolts and 4 nuts per stick.

When creating the locked brummel in the loop, you mentioned you would bury the ends back into themselves. I think a proper buried brummel splice for a loop, you bury the ends in the opposite piece and not themselves?
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Glad you liked the video!

I’m not too concerned with the amsteel wear, but only time will tell, I’ll be inspecting the aiders before I ascend and keep an eye on it.

The amsteel really seems to move through the holes pretty well and those holes aren’t as rigid as the holes in the standoff (which don’t take any pressure). The pressure from the step also seems to be distributed nicely around the back of the stick when deployed so it’s not just resting squarely on those holes.

You could definitely use some elastic cord to loop off the aider somewhere on the top of the stick! That sounds like a good idea ifyou do t want to add the weight!

Regarding the brummel, my understanding is that looping it back into itself removes the need for stitching the amsteel to lock it. Here are a couple of the resources I looked at when I was working on this:

G2 outdoors splicing video:
(check around the 3:40 mark)

Locked brummel vs. continuous splice:

That second video shows the difference between those splices and is exactly why I chose the method I did, tons of great information! I basically came up with a plan and messaged the amsteel guy to ask if he would do a locked brummel and how deep his bury would be and he said 100% and 6-8”

All that said, maybe a straight splice with lock stitching would be more secure or take the weight better! Hope that helps.
 
Plebe said:
I posed a similar question about Amsteel in this configuration. He doesn't seem worried.

No matter, the concept is very modifiable.

Frankly, I liked the wire aider concept better. I don't know if it is safe/possible to put a fastener through the center of the stick for the cable aider "teardrop" to ride on, what fastener would work, and how stacking would be effected. If I had the sticks, I'd probably explore something like that. Could be a dead end.

Also, wire fastenings. Were there a spreader that didn't give away strength, with a bumper on the bottom, that could perhaps be the ticket.

The one problem with TN retractable aiders is they sit close to the tree, making them difficult to use. I can't tell exactly how these Skeletor Amsteel aiders will function in that respect, as I don't know the distance to the post.

I did wonder with this Amsteel system if you could rig shock cord or something to the aider and pull them up to the keepers after ascending them, and step into them (with the overhanging stirrup) before deploying them on the way down so you don't have to fish for your step as well as to avoid aiders blowing in the wind.

Don't have the sticks to toy with and don't plan to switch from what I've got even though I like a lot of what's being offered.

Pretty imaginative diy. Should be interesting to see what others come up with.
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I liked the cable version too! Just didn’t ultimately feel as integrated as I wanted. I had the same question/thought about drilling through the stick but it seemed riskier than I’d like.

regarding closeness to the tree, these are maybe an inch closer to the tree than the steps. I’d love it if they pushed out a little more but they’re definitely not too tough to use.

I like your idea with the shock cord, that could be really cool!

To your last point, I’m so glad people are taking this and coming up with their own ideas on top of what I threw out there (like your idea to keep the aider on the way up the tree). It can only get better!
 
I would think a grommet through the holes the amsteel goes through would offer some reassurance but not sure if you could get a grommet and the amsteel through there.
 
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