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The JRB Climbing Method

Peer pressure is a weakness of mine...
Will let ya know how I like it.
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What store did you get that from?
 

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Cool, I got some on the way too! Thanks for sharing @John RB and thanks for the plug @Brocky if it doesn’t work out I’ll probably buy some of that xTec from you.
 
Cool, I got some on the way too! Thanks for sharing @John RB and thanks for the plug @Brocky if it doesn’t work out I’ll probably buy some of that xTec from you.
Now here's a crazy idea. I bet I could rig up a jrb system using the 5.5 mm cord for my friction hitches and the 7 mm Coppa as my primary rope! Did you see the breaking strength on that? 3150lbs!

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Now here's a crazy idea. I bet I could rig up a jrb system using the 5.5 mm cord for my friction hitches and the 7 mm Coppa as my primary rope! Did you see the breaking strength on that? 3150lbs!

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Fast delivery! This stuff is light and sooooo thin. Well it’s the same size as the beal cordage I use but it still shocks me at the size. 51156304-2D32-40F0-88DA-47E79D3C8F94.jpeg
 
Fast delivery! This stuff is light and sooooo thin. Well it’s the same size as the beal cordage I use but it still shocks me at the size. View attachment 53576
I just got mine in the mail today also. Of course, I didn't have any time to play with it because I went hunting instead! One of the cool things about my jrb climbing system is that you can rig one side with one cord and the other side with a different cord and compare them in a side-by-side comparison. Or two different friction hitches with the same cord. You get the idea

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Mammut dry 8.0 mm
Coppa 5000 5.5mm
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Am I crazy? Look at this stuff. Average breaking strength is almost 8,000 lb? At only 7 mm? Yes so expensive, but could I build a system out of this?

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It works better once it used a little bit, becomes more flexible and seems to grab a little better. Another nice cord with only a polyester cord but a big increase on strength is 6mm Samson’s WarpSpeed II. 5100 lbs break strength with an extra .5mm of diameter.
Coppa, WarpSpeed and Edelrid for comparison.
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Am I crazy? Look at this stuff. Average breaking strength is almost 8,000 lb? At only 7 mm? Yes so expensive, but could I build a system out of this?

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Here is correct info from Robline’s website
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@John RB what on earth am I suppose to do with 100ft of rope lol. It seems like overkill and I always have a ton of rope left over. I saw your video of wrapping rope up, but what do you do with your hitches? Do you simply leave them where they lay as you’re wrapping the rope up or do your bring them down to the ends, etc? Anyway, I’m almost to the point of tying the Blake’s hitches with the hunters bend like you show (left on the rope) but until I get the rope packing figured out I’m not going to bother. I know having the hitches already tied and on the rope is one of the PROS of JRB so I’m trying to indulge the full set up to get a feel for the system as a whole. I’ve just been reluctant so far. I know hunting season has started for you so no pressure to respond quickly.

anyone else have thoughts on packing this system up?
 
@John RB what on earth am I suppose to do with 100ft of rope lol. It seems like overkill and I always have a ton of rope left over. I saw your video of wrapping rope up, but what do you do with your hitches? Do you simply leave them where they lay as you’re wrapping the rope up or do your bring them down to the ends, etc? Anyway, I’m almost to the point of tying the Blake’s hitches with the hunters bend like you show (left on the rope) but until I get the rope packing figured out I’m not going to bother. I know having the hitches already tied and on the rope is one of the PROS of JRB so I’m trying to indulge the full set up to get a feel for the system as a whole. I’ve just been reluctant so far. I know hunting season has started for you so no pressure to respond quickly.

anyone else have thoughts on packing this system up?
I am still waiting on my mammut 8mm dry to show up, but I just watched this video last night.

 
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@John RB what on earth am I suppose to do with 100ft of rope lol. It seems like overkill and I always have a ton of rope left over. I saw your video of wrapping rope up, but what do you do with your hitches? Do you simply leave them where they lay as you’re wrapping the rope up or do your bring them down to the ends, etc? Anyway, I’m almost to the point of tying the Blake’s hitches with the hunters bend like you show (left on the rope) but until I get the rope packing figured out I’m not going to bother. I know having the hitches already tied and on the rope is one of the PROS of JRB so I’m trying to indulge the full set up to get a feel for the system as a whole. I’ve just been reluctant so far. I know hunting season has started for you so no pressure to respond quickly.

anyone else have thoughts on packing this system up?
This is a bit coincidentally hilarious to me... let me explain... the other day, i got a text message, pasted below (i don't think he will mind) from one of the first adopers of the JRB Climbing Method. Ya see, i told the guys in my Facebook group that 75ft is fine for most trees but every once in a while, i need more, and so I carry approximately 100ft... well, as you can see, i am not the only one, lol.

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"Hey just wanted to give you an update from some JRB climbing saddled hunters in Georgia.
In our woods here we are finding out you need a minimum of 100 feet. I had bought 150 foot predator rope for me and my son and cut it in half so we both have 75 feet. 90% of the trees that were climbing my 75 foot is barely touching the ground. So it's inconvenient because when I hook my bow to the end and start climbing, when I grab the rope to pull my foot loop up it pulls my bow off the ground and when I release it drops it back down. So I'll have to get 100 foot.
I know you recommend 75 foot of rope on your Facebook page. I realize depending on where you're at in the country this is going to vary. "

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JRBing this evening, hunting season just days away. View attachment 53583View attachment 53584View attachment 53585
I love seeing pix of other people's rigs... just some friendly comments:

1.I see ya have two beaners, creating a metal on metal situation.... that will clang around a bit. Some options are:
A. A couple cable ties between the beaners will eliminate clang.
B. A Swivel. Or a swivel carabiner. I cable tie my beaner to the Swivel also.

2. I see ya decided not to create a loop with the tails coming out of your friction hitches. That seems like more of a hassle to engage, and to get thru the crotch.

3. The distance between the friction hitch and the beaner is really short, just a few inches. That will make it a little more difficult to operate. The shorter that distance, the harder it is to squeeze your fingers in there to advance the hitches.




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I am still waiting on my mammut 8mm dry to show up, but I just watched this video last night.

Yea I know how to wrap rope up but man it’s a lot of rope to fool with. Then once you get it unraveled you have to slide your Blake’s hitch into starting position if your tree is taller or shorter? I’m trying to think of a a way to pack and unpack that makes sense to me. I also don’t hang from my rope at hunting height so I gotta roll it up at hunting height as well.
 
I love seeing pix of other people's rigs... just some friendly comments:

1.I see ya have two beaners, creating a metal on metal situation.... that will clang around a bit. Some options are:
A. A couple cable ties between the beaners will eliminate clang.
B. A Swivel. Or a swivel carabiner. I cable tie my beaner to the Swivel also.

2. I see ya decided not to create a loop with the tails coming out of your friction hitches. That seems like more of a hassle to engage, and to get thru the crotch.

3. The distance between the friction hitch and the beaner is really short, just a few inches. That will make it a little more difficult to operate. The shorter that distance, the harder it is to squeeze your fingers in there to advance the hitches.




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It’s not a hassle to get through the crotch because I’m currently not leaving them on my rope. That’s why I need to figure out the packing and unpacking otherwise I won’t be leaving the hitches on the rope at all time but rather just tie them when I need them.
 
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Yea I know how to wrap rope up but man it’s a lot of rope to fool with. Then once you get it unraveled you have to slide your Blake’s hitch into starting position if your tree is taller or shorter? I’m trying to think of a a way to pack and unpack that makes sense to me. I also don’t hang from my rope at hunting height so I gotta roll it up at hunting height as well.
Yes, one hitch needs to be slid into place based on the height of the crotch being higher or lower than the last tree ya climbed. The same is true of an MRS system with a pretied friction hitch. Ya can tie or slide. I have been doing this a long time: Slide is less time, effort and risk to slide that hitch a few feet than it is to TIE the hitch at the climbing site, particularly considering low light conditions.

As for coming off your climbing rope, I don't do that but i do bring up my rope. If there's not a tree crotch to stuff it, see photos: there is a small carabiner on the long end of my rope which is also my gear hoist. I form a Saddle Hunters Hitch with it, creating a loop on the end and fold my butterfly coil in it.
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This is a bit coincidentally hilarious to me... let me explain... the other day, i got a text message, pasted below (i don't think he will mind) from one of the first adopers of the JRB Climbing Method. Ya see, i told the guys in my Facebook group that 75ft is fine for most trees but every once in a while, i need more, and so I carry approximately 100ft... well, as you can see, i am not the only one, lol.

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"Hey just wanted to give you an update from some JRB climbing saddled hunters in Georgia.
In our woods here we are finding out you need a minimum of 100 feet. I had bought 150 foot predator rope for me and my son and cut it in half so we both have 75 feet. 90% of the trees that were climbing my 75 foot is barely touching the ground. So it's inconvenient because when I hook my bow to the end and start climbing, when I grab the rope to pull my foot loop up it pulls my bow off the ground and when I release it drops it back down. So I'll have to get 100 foot.
I know you recommend 75 foot of rope on your Facebook page. I realize depending on where you're at in the country this is going to vary. "

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I'm glad I saw this before I order a climbing line by the foot. The nerd in me wonders how high they were climbing and diameter of the tree.

I am interested in using John's climbing system. I hunt in KY and have never been in a situation to exceed my 40' rope girth hitched. I guess I hunt pretty low (25ish feet). My napkin math tells me that I would never need more than 80'. I might be missing something though.
 
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