The OFFICIAL Windlass tourniquet ROS, Sticks, or platform attachment method.

[raisins]

I wouldn't do it with carbon shafts alone as they have a very low shear strength. And may splinter as they break, however if you could glue 1 inside the other then it'd be plenty strong enough! Or try filling an arrow shaft with epoxy. Also if your spacer/sleeve is strong then that'll take some of the shear load as well! Have fun testing....especially to where you think its just about to break or bend because there is a sweet spot like on a compound bow where the pressure on the rod suddenly feels lighter than it is.

i might try a carbon shaft glued inside a larger aluminum shaft to act like a casing, would keep it light and keep it from splintering....a really stiff FMJ arrow would be similar concept but probably not as strong as two full strength shafts glued together

i've only gotten a carbon fiber splinter once (broken tennis racket) and i never want to repeat that

 

[ketch22]

I tried it out today, that bad boy got on there so tight it held my ROS in place on a metal light pole. I still have to add some paint and tape to my tension rod (insert joke) but it saved a ton of room in my dump pouch and lightened it significantly

 

[iamcorey]

Instead of wrapping the torque rod, have you tried a climb rated webbing (or amsteel) daisy chain? Pick the closest link and tighten down.


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[gcr0003]

How practical is this using it with a full ROS? This would mean that you would likely be doing all the wraps and stuff and setting this up on the back side of the tree (due to the rod length and everything). How much of an improvement on setting the ROS tight is this over the conventional methods that are currently used?

 

[kyler1945]

How do you incorporate a ratchet so the lever can be removed?

Does this get tighter than an OCB buckle? If so, and you can remove the lever after torquing it up, you’re on to something.

The one application I can see it being a winner right now would be really big trees.

 

[Spartan]

You can always tell when someone is serious about saddle hunting when they have a full-sized climbing tree in their garage

Interesting idea.

 

[gcr0003]

You can always tell when someone is serious about saddle hunting when they have a full-sized climbing tree in their garage

Interesting idea.

I think a lot of the high up North Yankees have no other choice. I heard several say they things like, “I’d show you on a tree outside but it’s April and we still have snow on the ground.” Apparently they can’t go outside for a good 5 months of the year so they gotta try out their gear somewhere, and the garage or basement seems to be better and warmer spot. To my saddle Hunter friends up north, when you have a basement in your house, is it automatically considered the man cave or do you still have to fight that one out with the Mrs? Moving into our first house soon and I’m shooting to get the whole garage. Lol

 

[Samcirrus]

How do you incorporate a ratchet so the lever can be removed?

Does this get tighter than an OCB buckle? If so, and you can remove the lever after torquing it up, you’re on to something.

The one application I can see it being a winner right now would be really big trees.

This method is way tighter than any OCB, equal to a ratchet strap, but absolutely silent and much lighter.
No, the torque rod cannot be removed as that is what is keeping the line tensioned, but neither does it ever get in the way!
Check out the picture of it ;eing used on a 4" tube/pipe.....size of the tree does not matter!

 

[Samcirrus]

How practical is this using it with a full ROS? This would mean that you would likely be doing all the wraps and stuff and setting this up on the back side of the tree (due to the rod length and everything). How much of an improvement on setting the ROS tight is this over the conventional methods that are currently used?

Once you understand how few wraps you really need, you can do it on any side of the tree you want as there's not alot of fidget factor. I've found the best length to be a 6 to 8" rod.
This method is sooo much tighter than the best OCB (treehoppers), just watch the video closely and give a it a try.....you'll see! I do think the key is the sliding rod which allows you to find the balance between too tight and just right and then secure it at the spot you want.

 

[Samcirrus]

Instead of wrapping the torque rod, have you tried a climb rated webbing (or amsteel) daisy chain? Pick the closest link and tighten down.


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No I haven't and I'm not sure how that would work or simplify anything. I think it would just spin inside the loop you put over the torque rod. But please try it out and let us know how it works for you!

 

[Samcirrus]

The advantage of this system is it's simplicity, quietness, high tension, and ability to use ordinary materials, provided you have a climbing rated strap or amsteel/rope with an eye splice.

 

[kyler1945]

I wonder what this does to strap/rope integrity. Obviously, you’re not going to use the rope later for a tether. and you should always be tied off regardless of platform/stick use.

I’d be curious to see what the rope or straps would pull test at compared with their rating after 1, 10, 100 cycles.

 

[raisins]

that bad boy got on there so tight it held my ROS in place on a metal light pole.

this struck me as funny.....almost like the highest praise an attachment system can receive from a saddle hunter

 

[ketch22]

this struck me as funny.....almost like the highest praise an attachment system can receive from a saddle hunter

lol yea man, I was on a break from work sitting in my car messing around with it. There was a metal light pole next to me so I said why not. Rock solid and much simpler, lighter, and quieter than my ratchet strap

 

[Samcirrus]

this struck me as funny.....almost like the highest praise an attachment system can receive from a saddle hunter

Lol....maybe he hunts on old light poles that he finds in the woods or on highways overlooking the woods...

 

[Samcirrus]

I wonder what this does to strap/rope integrity. Obviously, you’re not going to use the rope later for a tether. and you should always be tied off regardless of platform/stick use.

I’d be curious to see what the rope or straps would pull test at compared with their rating after 1, 10, 100 cycles.

Yep, would be interesting to test, but I don't see how it'd be much different than a ratchet strap... also you want to use a thin rope like amsteel if not using a strap as the toggle will get quite fat and unwieldy with anything larger than a 1/4" rope.

 

[Westdesign03]

Lol....maybe he hunts on old light poles that he finds in the woods or on highways overlooking the woods...

You’d be amazed how many old tv antenna tower sections I find in random places strapped to trees out in the bush. Some are starting to grow into the trees in some cases. About on the same level as a light pole maybe but at least is climbable I guess.


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[iamcorey]

Seems like a good candidate for whatever attachment this is now called. Check out 17:49.

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[cedar paul]

Been experimenting with this system and used both 6"&8" versions . I made my torquing rods out of lengths of 2216 with 2016 shafts inserted. I glued in inserts and screwed on some large washers then jb welded them in place - just added in my mind a safety factor when rotating the torque rod into the niteize S biner. I used pex tubing ( I think 3/8" from an air system I installed in my shop) for the slider and then used camo vet tape to build up on either side of the Amsteel loop to keep it centered on the slider. I tried it on a section of an old Buckstep which is really slick on the tree and it was rock solid. Now just have to wait for the Pursuit platform to arrive and really put the system to the test. Pretty simple and effective way of attachment.

 

[bfriendly]

I wonder what this does to strap/rope integrity. Obviously, you’re not going to use the rope later for a tether. and you should always be tied off regardless of platform/stick use.

I’d be curious to see what the rope or straps would pull test at compared with their rating after 1, 10, 100 cycles.

I was wondering this too, but without testing I bet amsteel would take quite a few cycles. Regardless, I’d never reuse it for life supporting application.