The Unofficial Saddle Hunters Tree Climbing Competition!

[Hillclimber]

Nice.

 

[John RB]

Beat that

Nice work brother. Not a lot of climbers have the confidence and courage to post a non edited full climb. But that's the only way i do em. This video is a year old and the throwball was already done but i can hit an easy crotch in one throw... this will give ya an idea what kinda time i can do!

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[sureshotscott]

I was rudely interrupted

 

[Hillclimber]

Nice work brother. Not a lot of climbers have the confidence and courage to post a non edited full climb. But that's the only way i do em. This video is a year old and the throwball was already done but i can hit an easy crotch in one throw... this will give ya an idea what kinda time i can do!

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Wish I had some of these rope skills for hunting some of those 40-50 inch trees.

 

[Weldabeast]

Nice work brother. Not a lot of climbers have the confidence and courage to post a non edited full climb. But that's the only way i do em. This video is a year old and the throwball was already done but i can hit an easy crotch in one throw... this will give ya an idea what kinda time i can do!

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Good job... Destroyed me

I knew I wouldn't be the fastest...just a good pace setter...

I'm not really able to do preset. With the quota lottery system u sometimes don't find out where u will hunt until just a couple days until u get the quota...I also have had no luck with throw balls....

 

[Chrighton]

So much for the idea of someone not setting a crazy wicked fast time to beat from the start. Thanks John.

 

[Samcirrus]

Whoa, time to do some moderating!
Nice video @Weldabeast , but I won't accept that as an official time since we haven't agreed on final rules yet and I know you can do even better/ smoother/ faster than that!!!
John's video doesn't count either! He may go even faster but he has to do it again when our "rules" are set.
I knew abt John's video and speed already and is one of the reasons I am suggesting to do the total time of 2 separate different styles of climbing.
I do want to give ppl a chance to learn a new speedy method.(Remember, speed is the byproduct of practice and smoothness)
For example: John has to make a new video of his JRB method and climbing with his JRB hitch method (which is alot slower!).
If you have a sneaky feeling SRT/JRB climbing is gonna be the fastest method why not learn it and use it as yr 2nd climb!
Your 1 stick method and an SRT/JRB climb may be faster than John's 2 methods.

Also we can make the deadline sooner than end of August

Also you can throw a throwball all day, yet your submitted climb will obviously only show a successful one and the climb that follows. Why not practice a bit first b4 you make your video Offical.
I put SRT/JRB together as a method only because some people dont have a long enough rope to do JRB, which is faster(to set up and take down)and possibly safer .
Also for SRT/JRB method, the branch rule counts, you have to throw your line over at least the second lowest branch.

 

[Samcirrus]

Good job... Destroyed me

I knew I wouldn't be the fastest...just a good pace setter...

I'm not really able to do preset. With the quota lottery system u sometimes don't find out where u will hunt until just a couple days until u get the quota...I also have had no luck with throw balls....

There will be no presets allowed. Every video must show at least 1 throw or slingshot attempt for SRT/JRB/MRS.
Also the tree you climbed would be great for SRT/JRB, why not give it a try, you have the foot loops already and a rappel rope. I bet you could go faster than John.....maybe....

 

[Weldabeast]

That's my 1 and only.....

 

[Red Beard]

Beat that

Well no wonder this man ain't killed a deer in years... he don't carry a bow!

 

[Samcirrus]

That's my 1 and only.....

Ok! Thanks for your pace setter contribution then!

 

[Weldabeast]

Well no wonder this man ain't killed a deer in years...

Ouch..... That stings

 

[Iron_llama]

If I could chime in a few weeks late... Change the determining criteria from "fastest" to "best". "Best" being some subjective, SAFE, balance of speed, grace, technical skill, silence, practicality, execution, etc. For the benefit of us newbies, I might suggest that the videos include some description of the gear, and the technique used. As the man offering up the prize, you'd be the sole arbitrator of which is the "best", maybe with bonus points for limby, gnarly, crooked, 'wild' trees.

 

[Samcirrus]

If I could chime in a few weeks late... Change the determining criteria from "fastest" to "best". "Best" being some subjective, SAFE, balance of speed, grace, technical skill, silence, practicality, execution, etc. For the benefit of us newbies, I might suggest that the videos include some description of the gear, and the technique used. As the man offering up the prize, you'd be the sole arbitrator of which is the "best", maybe with bonus points for limby, gnarly, crooked, 'wild' trees.

I do agree now that the parameters of this proposed competition should change slightly. It will no longer be a purely speed/time competition if it ends up happening.
I was leaving this alone to see what the poll would indicate, and so far there hasn't even been 10 people interested in joining. And many rightly saying that it was unnecessary.

I also think that after some people seeing John's video, (which was available on YouTube prior to this contest idea being proposed) might have shrunk away from even attempting due to his lightning speed! Though I think many people could learn JRB/SRT and safely climb a few seconds faster than John.
I also wanted to be a part of the contest not just the judge. I really dont know how to judge "best" because of so many varying methods, equipment, folks budgets, and level of comfort when it comes to safety.

All that to say, I'm just gonna leave this here until it actually gains more interest among people attempting to get really good at 2 methods or gets ignored, at which time it will be closed.

 

[HuumanCreed]

I feel like this is one of those competition that when you leave it too open, its fun but not realistic, but you NEED a lot of rules to make it far, at which point its a whole tournament full of individual events.

I mean...this might win.

Real life scenario, when I did all day sit and knew I wanted to go back to same tree next day. I honestly just leave the rope that I SRT with. Next morning it take less then a minute to connect my ascender and get back to exact same spot.

 

[John RB]

I feel like this is one of those competition that when you leave it too open, its fun but not realistic, but you NEED a lot of rules to make it far, at which point its a whole tournament full of individual events.

I mean...this might win.

Real life scenario, when I did all day sit and knew I wanted to go back to same tree next day. I honestly just leave the rope that I SRT with. Next morning it take less then a minute to connect my ascender and get back to exact same spot.

Rope walking is an extremely efficient method but has a long setup time, (and high cost profile). Strapping on your ascenders takes time and are not convenient in situations where you might want to add a layer of clothing when you get to your hunting location. Don't think I'd want to be wearing an ankle Ascender what I'm walking through the woods through a swamp. Rigging a basal anchor takes time. None of that is covered in the video. My 2cents

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[Samcirrus]

Exactly, set up and put away is half the time or more. Part of my original rules is a "fresh" tree.
@HuumanCreed I agree that "best" climb is way too vague to judge, and time is really the only way to have a person-to-person/ system-to-system fun contest.
But maybe we could come up with a formula to judge TIME-WEIGHT-COST-SAFETY
I truly believe that JRB/SRT(only difference is in rope availability/price) is the fastest way to get up a tree without spikes. And obviously a preset cord is faster still.
But that's what I think many people could learn SRT in addition to their 1 sticking, 2TC, JRB hitch climbing, platform climbing methods. And that's why I'd like to have it be a 2 method climb.
For example, 2 TC can be super light thin amsteel ropes, but to be comfortable and actually go faster per se, thicker heavier ropes are better because of ability to move and control the rope as well as less "catching" on rough bark.
But it seems most people are not into quickness being a factor, so there it is...
If you read my other posts you understand why I don't think this is dangerous.

 

[Samcirrus]

I feel like this is one of those competition that when you leave it too open, its fun but not realistic, but you NEED a lot of rules to make it far, at which point its a whole tournament full of individual events.

I mean...this might win.

Real life scenario, when I did all day sit and knew I wanted to go back to same tree next day. I honestly just leave the rope that I SRT with. Next morning it take less then a minute to connect my ascender and get back to exact same spot.

I'd like it to be a realistic, public land, new tree scenario. How many videos/climbs you make before you get the one you feel is fastest and best we'll never know. We'll only see your most "perfect" climb.