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Drilling carbon fiber is no problem if that was your concern. Just put a piece of painters tape on the top before you drill. I drill all my freediving fins and spearguns and never had an issue. Both of those pieces of equipment handle some serious loads and ive never had any issues.

I thought it destroys the stick integrity and strength


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I'm sure drilling a hole in anything can weaken it. I doubt it destroys anything. Just giving some real world experience. Take it FWIW. Maybe the sticks are made differently but I highly doubt it. From what I've seen its all made by layers of fiber n resin pressed together in a vacuum. But I could be wrong.

I feel like most stick manufacturers are gonna tell you that though... "don't cut it, don't drill it" blah blah.
 
Did they ever post the results of the third party testing?

they said they tested the step to 600lb it really torques it but they said it recovered. I am curious to see what the step looked like after that load.

also, they were supposed to test till failure. Wondering at what load that happened.
 
I'm sure drilling a hole in anything can weaken it. I doubt it destroys anything. Just giving some real world experience. Take it FWIW. Maybe the sticks are made differently but I highly doubt it. From what I've seen its all made by layers of fiber n resin pressed together in a vacuum. But I could be wrong.

I feel like most stick manufacturers are gonna tell you that though... "don't cut it, don't drill it" blah blah.

Maybe I don’t understand carbon fibre, but I thought the strength comes from overlaping fibres. If you break those linking fibres the strength is compromised.
Is there an engineer here who understands carbon fibre

This is the type of information you will find on line


....even a clean hole can greatly reduce the strength of a carbon fiber tube.
The strenght of the carbon fiber comes from the many fibres being intertwined and the length of these fibers making all of them work as a unit.
Drilling into them cuts the fibers length and can decrease the overall strength of the tube.

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Maybe I don’t understand carbon fibre, but I thought the strength comes from overlaping fibres. If you break those linking fibres the strength is compromised.
Is there an engineer here who understands carbon fibre


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No your right, thats definitely why its so strong. But almost all carbon fiber "things" have holes drilled in them somewhere and are from longer tubes or sheets and cut down into smaller pieces. Just like aluminum or other metals, if you drill enough holes its going to weaken it to the point of failure. Maybe drilling out a huge hole like the weight saving holes in beast sticks would be an issue but not a small hole to attach something. I can almost guarantee without looking at it they drilled the holes for steps. Its no different than that. Im definitely not an engineer though so this is all just from my own experiences.

I will say this. In my experience if it does break its usually a mess. Not a bend like aluminum would be. So I can see them being adamant about not altering their sticks.
 
Anyone get theirs in yet?

Is the 20” and 24” total length or step-to-step distance?
 
Anyone get theirs in yet?

Is the 20” and 24” total length or step-to-step distance?

If anyone else is wondering.

20” sticks:
1.2 lbs and 18-1/4” step spacing
24” sticks:
1.4 lbs and 22-1/4” step spacing
 
I'm sure drilling a hole in anything can weaken it. I doubt it destroys anything. Just giving some real world experience. Take it FWIW. Maybe the sticks are made differently but I highly doubt it. From what I've seen its all made by layers of fiber n resin pressed together in a vacuum. But I could be wrong.

I feel like most stick manufacturers are gonna tell you that though... "don't cut it, don't drill it" blah blah.

With the cost of these things, no way I'd ever drill them.
 
Maybe I don’t understand carbon fibre, but I thought the strength comes from overlaping fibres. If you break those linking fibres the strength is compromised.
Is there an engineer here who understands carbon fibre

This is the type of information you will find on line


....even a clean hole can greatly reduce the strength of a carbon fiber tube.
The strenght of the carbon fiber comes from the many fibres being intertwined and the length of these fibers making all of them work as a unit.
Drilling into them cuts the fibers length and can decrease the overall strength of the tube.

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Drilling holes in anything turns the hole into a sort of lever and the forces around the hole are magnified. A lot of this stuff isn't intuitive, and it's why I stick to mods that are simple, are increasing strength, or I really understand what is going on.

If they drilled holes in the sticks, I'd assume they'd epoxy in a solid piece of polymer or something that would take the load.
 
I have a sailing background and ice boating background where we had carbon fiber masts. We had to drill into the mast to mount hardware. Those masts are under huge pressure. So much pressure they bend, see the attached picture of an iceboat racing. CE9AFE90-C0FD-4015-9A5C-A74EDF46C5E5.jpegAnyways, I’m really thinking about trying making a C1 into a one stick.
 
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