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Watch your straps!!!!

Ridgerunner i assume if you look back at his post's from a few days back. Glad its not what own but still makes me think about a 2nd strap.

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lastnline75 said:
Ridgerunner i assume if you look back at his post's from a few days back. Glad its not what own but still makes me think about a 2nd strap.

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Well if that’s true it’s exactly why I want to know. Probably the same strap on my solo scout I hunted from the last 8 days. Nice work detective.
 
KyleND said:
I think it is a good post. If nothing else it reminds everyone to always be tethered in and to check gear over.
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I see more how-to videos on YouTube showing people stepping on their platform without a tether than I see correct ones and a lot of them are people who should know better.
 
bowhuntr09 said:
If its OOAL, I don't think its user error. He had a known issue with some straps.
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Didnt know that but Ive only been here a short period of time. It just reminded me of the issues people were having with Hawk sticks straps being inserted into the buckle wrong from the factory so thats why I posted about that earlier. Still, people need to know and like said already, good reminder to check your stuff.
 
lastnline75 said:
Ridgerunner i assume if you look back at his post's from a few days back. Glad its not what own but still makes me think about a 2nd strap.

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If you measure from the strap to the end of the platform and then from the strap to the point where teeth touch tree, and divide large distance by smaller, then you get the possible force multiplier on that strap (just a lever)

On a hardwood where things don't compress much and the user might do a harder cam over by shortening the strap too much....that platform style can generate a huge amount of force on the strap. If you cam over with 50 lbs of force it might increase that 5 or 10 or more times. And you are doing that repeatedly to the strap which can fatigue it.

The style of platform similar to ol' treestands where you slide down into the tree just makes more sense. Even if you toe cam the platform, you still have the flex in the post to take force off the strap.
 
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raisins said:
If you measure from the strap to the end of the platform and then from the strap to the point where teeth touch tree, and divide large distance by smaller, then you get the possible force multiplier on that strap (just a lever)

On a hardwood where things don't compress much and the user might do a harder cam over by shortening the strap too much....that platform style can generate a huge amount of force on the strap.

The style of platform similar to ol' treestands where you slide down into the tree just makes more sense. Even if you toe cam the platform, you still have the flex in the post to take force off the strap.
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In principle you upgrade the strap and give it an appropriate amount of stretch. But this all feels theoretical for now. If it's a known issue original poster should have been notified.
 
bodark said:
No pics, no names. Waste of time to even post it.
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I disagree. This is a "real world" dangerous situation that occurred that should serve to remind us how important it is to check our gear before each and every hunt, regardless of manufacturer.

It's the OP's prerogative as to whether he shares the manufacturer/model or not. He's given his reasons as to why he doesn't care to and that's good enough for me.
 
Wow didn’t realize if I didn’t want to post a pic or name a name I was wrong for just reminding you guys regardless of what brand of platform you use to check your straps
I’m not the type to bash anyone and I was waiting on a reply and address it accordingly and many of you guys already guessed the manufacturer so I will leave it at that and hope they make it right
 
raisins said:
If you measure from the strap to the end of the platform and then from the strap to the point where teeth touch tree, and divide large distance by smaller, then you get the possible force multiplier on that strap (just a lever)

On a hardwood where things don't compress much and the user might do a harder cam over by shortening the strap too much....that platform style can generate a huge amount of force on the strap.

The style of platform similar to ol' treestands where you slide down into the tree just makes more sense. Even if you toe cam the platform, you still have the flex in the post to take force off the strap.
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Not yelling or screaming here. Just asking a question in a CALM and CURIOUS Manor.
If they sold a product that is designed to be used a certain way, and if you use it another way it creates a potential failure 20' up in a tree? If that strap can't take any kind of accidental over pressure I would say it's a design flaw. Cause at that point you would need to set it with a torque wrench so your not over tightening in. If all my equipment is rated to just work in ideal situations and nothing more than Im selling it and ground hunting. Cause I am human and at some point I will make a mistake. Hopefully I inspected my gear, and hopefully someone is watching out for me and nothing bad happens. But i have to think as a liability the company has tried everything they can to test for failure points. I don't know the whole situation. Glad your okay Razor. Thanks for the reminder to check our stuff. Did you check your platform before hand? If not do you think you would have noticed something not right with it? Or do you think it was hidden? Do you think the stitches were all ready starting to come out?
I'm just trying to make some mental notes to my self for things to look for. Learn from what I read here so it dosent happen to me or hopefully anyone else.
 
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Ok update I just got off phone with manufacturer and they tried to contact me last night and I would have talked to them last night if I known to check my phone. They are very understanding and was already in stages to do their own in house before this unfortunate incident and kept asking if their was anything they can do which to me means a lot to me and that they were concern for my safety as well as others and they will be issuing a public announcement ASAP concerning this issue so I’m not putting them on blast as my original statement was to check your straps/ gear regardless of what manufacturer you use and if any concerns then contact them and talk to them. Remember always let someone know where your gonna be when hunting as if you don’t show up by appointed time. Safety is and always be the number one goal
 
I dont think anyone was wanting you to put them on "blast" to bash them. Something like this needs to be addressed quickly when you have peoples safety at risk. I can look at my straps as much as i want to but that doesnt make me a stitching expert. And for the record all my gear is brand new this year and if someone came on here and told me that the stuff i was running had a problem with the strap then i would definitely get rid of that for my safety. I dont want to bash any company, lifes to short for drama, i just want to be safe and enjoy the outdoors. Glad you werent seriously hurt and i hope the rest of your season goes smoothly.
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Ok update I just got off phone with manufacturer and they tried to contact me last night and I would have talked to them last night if I known to check my phone. They are very understanding and was already in stages to do their own in house before this unfortunate incident and kept asking if their was anything they can do which to me means a lot to me and that they were concern for my safety as well as others and they will be issuing a public announcement ASAP concerning this issue so I’m not putting them on blast as my original statement was to check your straps/ gear regardless of what manufacturer you use and if any concerns then contact them and talk to them. Remember always let someone know where your gonna be when hunting as if you don’t show up by appointed time. Safety is and always be the number one goal
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I understand where your coming from but I’m sorry I wanted people to be be aware of their gear regardless of manufacturer if in doubt replace as I’m no expert in stitching either but I will stitch more stitches in all my straps since I can and plan on to today so I won’t have any doubt in my mind
You guys can blast me if you want I’m a big boy I can handle it I just choose to not mention company but several fellas pick up on it and after talking to him this morning I feel he will make it right
 
Agreed with what @Razorbak66 said. Getting upset with him for not mentioning the company pending their response and saying he's not doing enough to help others out seems a bit much: If he hadn't posted, folks wouldn't even be wondering if there was an issue with their gear. How many guys have a problem of this kind and don't say anything at all?

I'm using a Ridge Runner, but without knowing his setup my first thought after reading the original post was, "phew, glad I don't like cam buckles and replaced the stock straps with versas", though I'm strongly considering timber-hitching an amsteel rope mod.
 
Razorbak66 said:
I understand where your coming from but I’m sorry I wanted people to be be aware of their gear regardless of manufacturer if in doubt replace as I’m no expert in stitching either but I will stitch more stitches in all my straps since I can and plan on to today so I won’t have any doubt in my mind
You guys can blast me if you want I’m a big boy I can handle it I just choose to not mention company but several fellas pick up on it and after talking to him this morning I feel he will make it right
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why does it have to be about blasting someone? I’ve never come to SH to blast someone and is why I stay away from all other hunting forums. its about getting word out when there a major issue and to me a bad strap is just that. I like what they have and are doing but a bad strap is a bad strap and we deserve to know immediately. You said safety is the number 1 concern but it seems to me that protecting the company from all the “blasters” on SH was the number concern. I’m not yelling just talking.
 
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