Is t not still illegal to bait on public land even when not hunting.
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Right on Dave. It’s up to us to help wardens clean up the riff raff on our public lands. They can’t be everywhere and truly appreciate the help. It benefits us all in the end when everyone is playing by the rules. The violators are the one’s that make all us other hunters look bad to the non-hunting public. When people look the other way because they don’t want to get involved it only feeds to problem and before you know it gets out of hand. Generally over the years I have noticed a guy skirting one of the rules more often than not has a very long list of broken rules.
ImThere
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yes but he wasn't "baiting for the illegal take of game" or similar wording as I remember it. We can use minerals, salts and such
rutjr
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You can’t even use deer urine in RI
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ImThere
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dang is that for CWD?
kind of thought most hunters are pretty ethical? Sure used to be.
Deer urine is illegal in AR as well. I report all drippers, droppers, bait piles, estrous viles, mineral rocks, blocks, and jugs. Keep up the fight DaveT. If guys want to trash their own land so be it but dont bring it to public.
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ImThere
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Dang I really need to read up on different states regulations before I go hunt one! That would suck to get caught up in.
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Let me preface this by saying I hunted over bait early in my hunting career but as I look back on it, the number one best thing I ever did with respect to my hunting success was to quit baiting and learn how to hunt mobile on active deer sign.
Michigan is on it's second round of a bating ban. The first occurred several years ago and I must admit I was incensed everytime I found an illegally baited stand and I turned several in. For whatever reason the ban was lifted in lieu of bait quantity restrictions for the past several years.
WIth the emergence of CWD this year a ban was reimplemented. It's odd though, even though a hunter is not supposed to bait there's no law against selling bait and it appears to me that there's been no perceptible impact on bait sales. Every gas station as a pile that gets replenished every week. I also must admit I'm less opposed to others baiting. The reason for it is entirely selfish. If someone's taken the time to develop a bait a site they aren't likely to hunt anywhere else, and they are generally close to a road (not many want to lug bait in over a 1/4 mile). Knowing where guys bait piles are tells me where they are hunting and I can easily avoid them. It also helps to keep them out of the areas I prefer to hunt.
Michigan is on it's second round of a bating ban. The first occurred several years ago and I must admit I was incensed everytime I found an illegally baited stand and I turned several in. For whatever reason the ban was lifted in lieu of bait quantity restrictions for the past several years.
WIth the emergence of CWD this year a ban was reimplemented. It's odd though, even though a hunter is not supposed to bait there's no law against selling bait and it appears to me that there's been no perceptible impact on bait sales. Every gas station as a pile that gets replenished every week. I also must admit I'm less opposed to others baiting. The reason for it is entirely selfish. If someone's taken the time to develop a bait a site they aren't likely to hunt anywhere else, and they are generally close to a road (not many want to lug bait in over a 1/4 mile). Knowing where guys bait piles are tells me where they are hunting and I can easily avoid them. It also helps to keep them out of the areas I prefer to hunt.
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Pretty sure corn is what folks put in deer feeders.
Not been my experience. People do a lot of things they shouldn't when they think no one is looking.
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In Minnesota you can't leave trail cameras or tree stands on WMAs. I find both all the time. I mark their location and take a picture of them, then email the local conservation officer. I just found a trail camera yesterday and sent an email to the conservation officer today.
The laws are in place for a reason and as mentioned earlier, the authorities need all the help they can get enforcing these laws. People breaking laws on public land is all of our business.
The laws are in place for a reason and as mentioned earlier, the authorities need all the help they can get enforcing these laws. People breaking laws on public land is all of our business.
Those people are doing you all a favor. When I find anything like that I just know that's not a good spot to hunt. I also don't care how anyone else hunts. I understand being irritated by it, especially in a state where it is illegal altogether. But in states that allow bait, it just seems like a mountain of a molehill.
The deer in Michigan are contracting CWD(mad cow or chronic wasting) through noses touching in and around bait piles.
Gas stations still sell bait, Box stores, even though Michigan outlawed baiting in the Lower Peninsula. It is ridiculous how much illegal baiting is happening in Michigan in 2019.
DNR/NRC was deliberately given authority to regulate hunting and MI natural resources. They banned baiting without having to go through the legislature. Regulating the sale of bait would have to go through the legislature. That doesn't happen quickly. That's just the way it works.
SC outlawed using deer urine a few weeks before the season started this year due to CWD being found at few of the urine collection farms. At least thats what they tell us. The stores shelves are still loaded with it.
Cwd is probably going to be in 48 states before it’s over with. It’s definitely not worth expediting the process by using urine if it can be spread that way. It’s a disease we really need to know more about.
Couldn't agree more.. Its just one of those unnecessary items some folks think they can't hunt without.
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Not true. There are no hormones in corn. I think I know corn better than you. You know hunting better than me
Deer like cattle and sheep can get acidosis
Grain overload is also known as acidosis or grain poisoning. It occurs when cattle, sheep or goats eat large amounts of grain, and can result in acidosis, slowing of the gut, dehydration and often death
If deer are already eating significant amounts of corn their gut gets used to it. If it is suddenly introduced you get acidosis
It happen whether they eat GMO corn or organic corn or any kind of grain
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