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Who has removed leg straps? Any regrets?

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Fl Canopy Stalker said:
Who shock loads a zip line though? For the record the zip line harnesses also have leg straps :sweatsmile:
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They where all pretty loose on every one i saw..who shock loads their saddle?its for sitting in..I don't mean you i know its your job to make and test safe gear and osure people its safe.so I will be the first to admit all my little sisters are tougher than me.nothing to do with pride.i also can overthink an irational fear.but we tie our selves to trees so we can't fall. there's nothing safer than a saddle when it comes to elevated hunting. However if this was a focus group it wouldn't take a genius to tell who is scared of the Easter bunny
 
The latitude mission 2 has removable leg straps....for the O.P. if you want a saddle you don't have to mutilate and ruin resale value.....
 
First off I’ll start by saying I use my leg straps. I’m not debating it. I’ll just wear them. Not that big of a deal to me.

My question is I worked as an apprentice lineman for a few years and climbed a lot. To my knowledge there isn’t a single lineman’s belt with leg straps. There’s dude climbing all over the country everyday not using leg straps.

Anyways Ik a saddle isn’t a lineman’s belt but anyone care to I guess explain the difference? Or why you don’t think they compare. Thanks!

Again I’ll just keep using them. Main reason I ask if I saw the TX5 Minimalist saddle has legs straps you can remove. I thought why not just not use them? Then I saw this thread lol
 
Bowtie747 said:
First off I’ll start by saying I use my leg straps. I’m not debating it. I’ll just wear them. Not that big of a deal to me.

My question is I worked as an apprentice lineman for a few years and climbed a lot. To my knowledge there isn’t a single lineman’s belt with leg straps. There’s dude climbing all over the country everyday not using leg straps.

Anyways Ik a saddle isn’t a lineman’s belt but anyone care to I guess explain the difference? Or why you don’t think they compare. Thanks!

Again I’ll just keep using them. Main reason I ask if I saw the TX5 Minimalist saddle has legs straps you can remove. I thought why not just not use them? Then I saw this thread lol
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I'm interested in rock climbers cutting off their leg straps.
 
Jwiggins762 said:
Cut mine off 3 years ago no regrets....yet.
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How many times has your platform strap broken and ya fell suddenly with no leg straps ? None? Well, ok, how many times have ya just jumped off your platform at 25 feet with a little slack to see how it works out? 100? 10? None?

The fact that someone has "no regrets" is completely and totally irrelevant if you haven't experienced these scenarios and with HIGH confidence, you're safe every time. The leg straps aren't there for normal situations. They are there for abnormal situations. I have tried to jump out of my tree literally a million times. No hands, no feet, just let go, at anytime during ascent, the sit, or the rappel. And I have never moved an inch cuz there's never any slack. And if i did, the leg straps would catch me.

Cutting your straps out is kinda like speeding on a motorcycle at night on a wooded country road during the rut with no helmet. We are taking a chance we don't need to take.

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John RB said:
How many times has your platform strap broken and ya fell suddenly with no leg straps ? None? Well, ok, how many times have ya just jumped off your platform at 25 feet with a little slack to see how it works out? 100? 10? None?

The fact that someone has "no regrets" is completely and totally irrelevant if you haven't experienced these scenarios and with HIGH confidence, you're safe every time. The leg straps aren't there for normal situations. They are there for abnormal situations. I have tried to jump out of my tree literally a million times. No hands, no feet, just let go, at anytime during ascent, the sit, or the rappel. And I have never moved an inch cuz there's never any slack. And if i did, the leg straps would catch me.

Cutting your straps out is kinda like speeding on a motorcycle at night on a wooded country road during the rut with no helmet. We are taking a chance we don't need to take.

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I had my stick kick out while I was one sticking season before last. It was a little scary and yes my saddle was wanting to ride up towards my armpits but it never did and I eventually made it down safely. Im comfortable with my current setup and everyone has risk to take when climbing. I cut my leg straps off for comfort and maybe my next saddle I get if I find the leg straps not to bother me then I will leave them on.
 
Bowtie747 said:
First off I’ll start by saying I use my leg straps. I’m not debating it. I’ll just wear them. Not that big of a deal to me.

My question is I worked as an apprentice lineman for a few years and climbed a lot. To my knowledge there isn’t a single lineman’s belt with leg straps. There’s dude climbing all over the country everyday not using leg straps.

Anyways Ik a saddle isn’t a lineman’s belt but anyone care to I guess explain the difference? Or why you don’t think they compare. Thanks!

Again I’ll just keep using them. Main reason I ask if I saw the TX5 Minimalist saddle has legs straps you can remove. I thought why not just not use them? Then I saw this thread lol
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Guys listen your leg straps are positioning the saddle on you. They only assist with load bearing if you fall, especially if you fall on your lineman’s loops/rope. Leave them on! If your climbing stick stand-off ever bends or cuts out, you’re gonna wish you had them!
I’ll address the lineman’s belt… No they do not have leg straps. They are 6” from top to bottom (how many of you use a 2” waist belt and would want an extra 4” of leather and padding tight to your waist area only and must be strapped around your torso extremely tight so not to slip up. It is impossible to sit in them and they are different than a saddle or rock climbing harness. They have metal d ring connection points located exactly at your hip bone to assist with both catching while also alleviating some of the squeeze pressure to your torso (you’re fitted to be assured of this, one size does not fit most)) They have a standards enforcement along with government regulations. The standard (OSHA/ANSI) says that anyone using a work positioning harness cannot be in a position to fall more than 18”. This does not mean 18” is a safe distance to fall, it simply means that any fall further than that will produce life threatening forces to your body. This is why today, some form of pole squeeze is used while they climb. It also means your system cannot have slack at any given point because the lineman’s belt is very often longer than 9” out from the pole. Lineman also go through a formal climbing school training. If you were an apprentice, then you most likely spent one of those years or several months as a groundsman who wasn’t allowed onto the pole at all. Before pole squeezes, falls (not electrocution) were the number one cause of death and injury in the line work industry. Now it’s changed but that’s due to standards, use of bucket trucks and companies being forced to abide by those regulations. Employees not following the rules are subject to fines or being unemployed. We can’t fine you for not keeping slack out of your hunting saddle. Also lineworkers fatality rate is 50 out of every 100,000. Think about if 50 of every 100,000 hunters died while hunting! That’s double police and fireman fatalities combined annually. And those are trained elevated climbers. It’s one of the top 10 most dangerous jobs on the planet. That’s not a good comparison. Arborist are much closer to us in activity and you don’t remove your leg straps from an arbor culture harness. There is a reason for that. It has nothin to do with comfort or being a sissy, it’s simply for safety IF a fall occurs. As @tailgunner pointed out no one intentionally shock loads a saddle. But accidents happen. The leg straps are there for extra insurance when that accident does occur
 
Jwiggins762 said:
I had my stick kick out while I was one sticking season before last. It was a little scary and yes my saddle was wanting to ride up towards my armpits but it never did and I eventually made it down safely. Im comfortable with my current setup and everyone has risk to take when climbing. I cut my leg straps off for comfort and maybe my next saddle I get if I find the leg straps not to bother me then I will leave them on.
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There is risk, then there's unnecessary risk.

I'm glad you didn't get hurt.
 
Plebe said:
There is risk, then there's unnecessary risk.

I'm glad you didn't get hurt.
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Exactly… we take a risk every time we drive our trucks to work. There are crazy distracted road raging drivers. Tractor trailer guys who were up all night on the road and then rain, wind or for some, snow.. I don’t increase my chances of an accident by driving erratic and weaving in and out of traffic like I’m in a fast and furious movie. Maybe some do. Maybe they’ve never had an accident or been hurt? But just because someone else does it, doesn’t mean you have to do it. People have survived falls from airplanes when their chutes failed. How many of y’all wanna jump out of a plane with no parachute just to prove you’ll survive? Not me lol
Just because something hasn’t happened to you yet or just because some one else didn’t get hurt when they fell, doesn’t mean it won’t happen or can’t happen.
I hear guys say well don’t get up in trees or don’t hunt. Well most of y’all have never won the lottery and most likely won’t but that didn’t stop you from creating a post about pitching in and trying to win that big 1 billion dollar jack pot did it :sweatsmile: why…? Because there is a very very slim chance you might actually win. Well there is statistically a 1/3 chance you will experience some type of fall (dynamic event) in your elevated hunting career. I’d take those odds for winning the lottery any day

sorry Plebe I wasn’t addressing you personally. I meant in general lol
 
I know i say dont be scared.but in all honesty i only consider a small handfull of people i know to be compitant enough to climb a wet tree in the dsrk.the majority of people would worry me though and i cant have distractions like that when im hunting.some of my friends make me wounder how they have crossed so many roads without geting killed
 
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