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Who has snorted the Fairy Dust?

jakhammer

jakhammer

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Just watched a handful of videos from the Ranch Fairy and I am in.
I killed a really big buck this year, but the exit wound being higher than the entry wound and also being a foot backconfirmed that I am having arrow flight issues with my current setup. My arrows are spined and squared, but neither inserts nor nocks were tuned and the arrows have never been shot unfletched.
I bought a bitzenberger jig last year and am ordering an arrow spinner and a squaring tool.
I am also prob going to order the kit to try the different weight points and go to a 30% efoc (Extreme foc) or even a uefoc (Ultra extreme foc= foc >30%) arrow and get my total weight somewhere around the 600 gr.- 700 gr range depending on what flies best from my bow. I am also going to go to a cut on contact fixed blade since I just booked an elk trip today and will be hunting off the ground and I want my arrows to be perfected long before season - I want to make the most of this opportunity.
 
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I've snorted the dust. I purchased the kit and have been playing with it. So far I have a 30" 250 spine unfletched arrow with 350 up front shooting like darts. The insert is 100 gr and the field point is 250 which is a 685 gr arrow. It sounds a little too much but I'm just playing right now.
 
I went in last season. 750ish with COC. Shoot one through the neck. Like butter. Only down side is slowwwwwwwwwww. Like 200fps slow. But my bow was an older single cam. But I am never going back from the skeet load I was shooting before. Might lose a little but for next season. But time will tell.
 
I used a 700 with coc on a couple of pigs. They were slow but with 20 yards it didnt matter. They barely reacted and were quick kills. Dropped down to 550 and waiting to see how that works. Went from 191 to 240 losing that extra 150 and they fly great. Sirius makes some good arrows.

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So I’m not for sure on this but aren’t those setups only good for like 20-25 yards?


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I didn’t go super heavy. 525 total arrow weight with 250 up front (Iron Will 150s with 75 grain insert and 25 grain impact collar). Gold tip kinetic pierce platinum arrows (probably slightly under spined at 340). Clocking 260 FPS out of my 70 lb Hoyt at 28.5 inch draw length. Grouping well out to 60 yards. Killed 2 deer last year: both pass through sat 10 and 17 yards. Arrows were buried 10 inches in the dirt post impact. I noticed improved arrow flight, killer momentum / penetration, and a much quieter bow on release. I’ll never go back to my old 360 gr set up. Wyoming elk in 2024...can’t wait!!!
 
Nimbus1376 said:
I didn’t go super heavy. 525 total arrow weight with 250 up front (Iron Will 150s with 75 grain insert and 25 grain impact collar). Gold tip kinetic pierce platinum arrows (probably slightly under spined at 340). Clocking 260 FPS out of my 70 lb Hoyt at 28.5 inch draw length. Grouping well out to 60 yards. Killed 2 deer last year: both pass through sat 10 and 17 yards. Arrows were buried 10 inches in the dirt post impact. I noticed improved arrow flight, killer momentum / penetration, and a much quieter bow on release. I’ll never go back to my old 360 gr set up. Wyoming elk in 2024...can’t wait!!!
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Thanks, great info - my first elk hunt is in september so I'll be looking for broadhead recommendations
 
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Look up Brandon McDonald on YouTube. He shot a 800 and a 400 out to 60 and shows the difference in the two.

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Not sure I can handle another vid behind a campfire with a cigar and a scotch, a cigarette and glass of wine would be nice change of scenery.
 
I tend to skip those videos. Haha. The fairy did a set with the hunting public. In there he said that a lot of people that are around the 29" 60# do really good with a 300 spine with 225 up front. That could be a good starting point and can get you between 520 to 570 really easy.

I like cutthroat broadheads. They work pretty good on pig and fly good.

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I've been on the fence about this for a while now and asked my trusted bow shop about it. They said if you're shooting 35 yards and under you can go crazy and make the arrow as heavy as you like and have great results. They found after working with dozens of guys and trying to do it themselves that when the FOC is higher than 15% or 16% they typically start having issues when shooting beyond 40 yards. I typically only practice out to 50 yard and only shoot deer at 30 or less so a none issue for me. They also found that most people ended up with a total arrow weight between 520 and 575. After listening to them I decided to go with a Easton Axis 5mm 300 and use the matching Ethics Archery Adjustable Outsert System 95-185 grain to dial in a handload since I have already decided to use 125 grain QAD Exodus broadheads.
 
I went through the process this year. Went from a 400 spine arrow with a 100 gr Slick Trick fixed broadhead with a total weight of 347 grains to a 250 spine with a 75 gr insert, 200 gr GrizzlyStik Samurai and a 24% FOC with a total weight of 614 gr. Haven't shot it through a crono, but it doesn't seem that much slower, and my bow is MUCH quieter and I'm shooting tighter groups to 64 yards. And my broadheads fly and group with my field points. Picture is result of day 1 after hand load was selected and first batch were completed. I'd say they are flying pretty true.


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Top 3 sight pins from 20 to 40 are pretty close, between 40 and 50 there is a bigger drop. Arrows fly perfect to 64 yards - I just haven't shot them further, but I'm sure they would perform just as well past that. Been hunting since 1996, killed many deer and I've only lost 3 in that time. So I didn't switch because I've lost a bunch of deer. It might be overkill, but I have a lot more confidence in this setup than the old. Things happen. Deer dip, duck, dive, dodge and dip. You might hits ribs. You might hit a shoulder. I like the piece of mind that I have a higher chance of success in those situations. But I also realize a heavy arrow is not a magic bullet. Responsible shots and shot placement are still key for an ethical harvest.
 
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I went through the process this year. Went from a 400 spine arrow with a 100 gr Slick Trick fixed broadhead with a total weight of 347 grains to a 250 spine with a 75 gr insert, 200 gr GrizzlyStik Samurai and a 24% FOC with a total weight of 614 gr. Haven't shot it through a crono, but it doesn't seem that much slower, and my bow is MUCH quieter and I'm shooting tighter groups to 64 yards. And my broadheads fly and group with my field points. Picture is result of day 1 after hand load was selected and first batch were completed. I'd say they are flying pretty true.


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Top 3 sight pins from 20 to 40 are pretty close, between 40 and 50 there is a bigger drop. Arrows fly perfect to 64 yards - I just haven't shot them further, but I'm sure they would perform just as well past that. Been hunting since 1996, killed many deer and I've only lost 3 in that time. So I didn't switch because I've lost a bunch of deer. It might be overkill, but I have a lot more confidence in this setup than the old. Things happen. Deer dip, duck, dive, dodge and dip. You might hits ribs. You might hit a shoulder. I like the piece of mind that I have a higher chance of success in those situations. But I also realize a heavy arrow is not a magic bullet. Responsible shots and shot placement are still key for an ethical harvest.
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Ya I am more excited about the process of bare shafting and insert tuning and nock tuning and acheiving perfect arrow flight. I have been bowhunting since 1980 and used to shoot fixed blades, but they always flew way different than my field points, so I switched to mechanicals. I still may shoot mechanicals for whitetails, but want the confidence of a perfectly flying arrow
 
jakhammer said:
Ya I am more excited about the process of bare shafting and insert tuning and nock tuning and acheiving perfect arrow flight. I have been bowhunting since 1980 and used to shoot fixed blades, but they always flew way different than my field points, so I switched to mechanicals. I still may shoot mechanicals for whitetails, but want the confidence of a perfectly flying arrow
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The trick for me is to bareshaft paper tune at close range with tape at the back of arrow. The tape should weigh the same as your fletchings and be centered at your fletches center of mass (balance a fletching to find it). Then you can almost skip bareshaft testing at 20 yards, it is hyper critical of form. Step back to 40 yards and compare fletched broadhead and fletched field points. Adjust rest, etc until they hit the same spot. PS Don't shoot broadheads and field points in same round at same spot or you'll wreck your arrows.
 
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