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Why carry so much crap?

No Way i'm heading to a tree without some toilet paper at a minimum... I'm too old and, well, let's leave the rest of that alone...

No TP for me, but I always have 5 wet wipes in the "after-the-shot" section of my pack. Three are for post gutting cleanup; one for hands/arms, one for knife, and a spare if things are especially messy.

The other two? You guessed it; emergency #2's... :laughing: :D
 
And I feel like my G2 is a little too small for midwestern whitetail.

After doing some more hunting with the pouch, think I'll be packing in the G3 from now on. Don't like the sagging that the pouch causes. Also had the snaps come undone if I bent over too far. Hard to get things out of easily.
 
Honest question. In your mind, how valuable is a first aid kit for somebody who hunts one to two miles back from the truck, and lives 30 minutes from a large city with several hospitals?

My thought is any injury I sustain is likely to fall under one of two categories:

Trivial enough to "shake it off" and either patch it at home or drive to hospital. Last year I had a mishap that resulted in 4 stitches to my ankle. Sure, a butterfly bandage would have helped, but so did applying pressure with a t shirt and then hobbling out. I've also cut myself gutting before and am still here.

Severe enough that a first aid kit don't do ya no good. Fall 30ft or shoot yourself, and a butterfly bandaid and some antiseptic don't help ya none.

I'm not trying to be tongue-in-cheek, and I'm not opposed to carrying something. But I'm not walking around with a splint and quick-clot acting like I'm gonna patch myself up after fighting a zombie bear.
Well... I look at it this way. Everything I carry first aid wise and a fire starting kit and space blanket fit in a Tupperware the size of a sandwich.

I think it's incredibly important. Cut your finger bad enough aand stabilizing it for the first hour could be the difference between being called stuby the rest of your life and still being able to play guitar. 2 miles on a sprained ankle sucks, 2 miles on a sprained ankle with your boot tightly wrapped in tape feels a lot better. Stick in the eye, I carry a small thing of natural tears-can was crap right out. We cary aa lot of sharp things we could impail ourselves with. Being able to easily and comfortably stop the bleeding and keep you from being stuck in the woods and potentially keep you on your feet and headed towards your truck.
 
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Bow hook, field dressing kit, rangefinder, GPS, bow ropes. Two screw in hooks. Release. Small silky saw. Small pack of hot hands. Sometimes a grunt tube and rattle bag but I'm starting to believe they do more harm then good. My eberlestock mini me had a water bladder I put about 750ml into. Maybe a cliff protien bar

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If you are going to be packing out meat don't you need a pack with empty space going in?
Those southern deer are miniatures. :)And you can field-debone legally. I've got a little collabsable stuffsack with pack straps about the size of the pack @Nutterbuster mentioned. Not ideal for packing out but packs down to about half a fist in size and weighs nothing, if you really wanna go all-in on ultralight and packout. I'd consider it for early-season stripped down hunting other than the bone transport issue. And once it's cool enough that you're packing clothes, just strap on your clothes on the pack out (and once you have a pack really all that matters is streamlined profile while bustin brush, comfort, and gear-management up, down, into the tree). An extra few ounces here and there doesn't matter at all - until it forces you to upsize gear, exceeds the comfortable load of what you're carrying with, or means you've got crap you don't need obstructing access to stuff you do need.
 
I am just the opposite - I take in gear that helps me hunt. Binoculars, game camera, kill kit, grunt call, etc. can be found in my pack often. With a 2 hour drive being the norm, and hot temps, heavy coyote populations - you don't have time to be running back home to get something you could have carried in the woods.

Truth is, I was on the weight cutting journey for a few years and then I made a remarkable discovery that cut far more weight then anything I ever did DIY - I started working out, I started KETO and I dropped almost 40#s (still have 10-15 pounds to cut if I want to get serious) - I routinely carry a 20-30 pound pack when you add in weight of pack, waders, sticks, platform, camera and extra clothes, water and lunch, and everything else..... I just look at it as my winter training program. It gets kind of silly looking for 5 pounds of weight savings in our packs when most of use have an easy 10+ we can cut off our bodies - an be healthier in the process.
 
I am going to try the no pack method but already have in my mind to take a plastic shopping bag for the heart. I put the heart in a plastic bag in my pack on the doe I shot and my pack did not end up full of blood. I have to transport the deer whole here.
 
I am just the opposite - I take in gear that helps me hunt. Binoculars, game camera, kill kit, grunt call, etc. can be found in my pack often. With a 2 hour drive being the norm, and hot temps, heavy coyote populations - you don't have time to be running back home to get something you could have carried in the woods.

Truth is, I was on the weight cutting journey for a few years and then I made a remarkable discovery that cut far more weight then anything I ever did DIY - I started working out, I started KETO and I dropped almost 40#s (still have 10-15 pounds to cut if I want to get serious) - I routinely carry a 20-30 pound pack when you add in weight of pack, waders, sticks, platform, camera and extra clothes, water and lunch, and everything else..... I just look at it as my winter training program. It gets kind of silly looking for 5 pounds of weight savings in our packs when most of use have an easy 10+ we can cut off our bodies - an be healthier in the process.
I lost 60 lbs on keto and am currently down 40 lbs from my max. I was a bit too skinny at 156 lbs but am a bit overweight now at 174 lbs.
 
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