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Why don't yall 2TC?

Samcirrus said:
Yes, he made those. You just can't lift your legs as high in one step as a single foot. Its also harder to adjust your foot tether around the tree as you advance because you need 1 hand to push your body away from the tree as you lift both legs.
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HunterBob said:
I'm curious how many of you who are experienced in 2TC use tether handles? I've done a handful of climbs so far and am really liking the 2TC method without handles, but can see the safety concerns in case of a slip and fingers getting pinched. Would love to get some feedback on those who use these and also from those who don't as to why.
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I one sticked for a few years and made my own paracord loops, which I found much easier to use than flipping the rope up. Though I do have a flimsy hand me down rope from a climbing guide friend, which is not as easy to flip. I did order the handles from CGM though and excited to try those out on the same rope with 2TC.
 
This is getting easier. Not necessarily faster, but far less effort than it used to require, just like learning one-sticking goes.

I was using an aider made of 1" tubular webbing stuffed with pex piping to keep it open. But it also really hurt the sides of my foot. I started using my my old 16mm sewn sling. Weirdly the skinnier sling was much more comfy!
 
I climbed 2T/C today and gave it a good honest go..with a ring of steps was much easier this go around and was liteweight. I like my xop platform climbing or one sticking but I can see the advantage of 2T/Cing a bigger tree even a smaller tree for that matter. I do know I am getting a another set of steps to have more mobility around the tree. I can see me sitting for hours with just the set of steps and my second tether no problem.
 

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How are you guys setting and transitioning to your platforms when doing 2tc? Do you sit in the saddle and move the foot tether up, place platform below foot tether, then stand and transition?

BT
 
Black Titan said:
How are you guys setting and transitioning to your platforms when doing 2tc? Do you sit in the saddle and move the foot tether up, place platform below foot tether, then stand and transition?

BT
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There's several pages deep in the thread dedicated to this topic....let's make more!
 
Did another couple of climbs yesterday and I am also finding this method to be much easier than I thought it would be. Getting quicker at transitioning around branches and am finding this method overall to feel much safer than climbing with sticks. It's no problem for me going down with 2TC either, I can easily imagine doing this in the dark for afternoon hunts.

Thanks again to everyone who is helping us newbies out!
 
Black Titan said:
How are you guys setting and transitioning to your platforms when doing 2tc? Do you sit in the saddle and move the foot tether up, place platform below foot tether, then stand and transition?

BT
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I will usually make another move or two before transitioning to the platform/steps, but yep that's the process.
 
Well, I tried three times with the two TC system and I seem to not get it. I’m having a hard time advancing the tether.I tried the v3 quickly then the jrb cinch. I’m gonna try some more. I’m not gonna give up but thinking art might have to be my next step
 
cheecho67 said:
Well, I tried three times with the two TC system and I seem to not get it. I’m having a hard time advancing the tether.I tried the v3 quickly then the jrb cinch. I’m gonna try some more. I’m not gonna give up but thinking art might have to be my next step
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What part of tether advancement is causing you issues?
 
krub6b said:
What part of tether advancement is causing you issues?
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Advancing the tether doesn’t seem I can advance it high enough. I bark is a little challenging it doesn’t help.I trying the J r b cinch , just that part of up with one leg and advancing. What are you doing with the connection?
 
cheecho67 said:
Advancing the tether doesn’t seem I can advance it high enough. I bark is a little challenging it doesn’t help.I trying the J r b cinch , just that part of up with one leg and advancing. What are you doing with the connection?
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Are you having trouble getting the tether rope to stay up after you move it? You have mentioned trying different connections so it makes me wonder. You could use a tether locker of some sort to keep it up if that is the trouble.

Also, you won’t be able to make big moves but you should at least be able to go from let’s say your chest to the top of your head or better? If you are having trouble with that then your saddle connection point to your tether is too high. Give yourself a little slack so you can move the tether on the tree higher.

Sorry if I am just throwing darts here but I am not exactly sure what is going on.
 
chaded said:
Are you having trouble getting the tether rope to stay up after you move it? You have mentioned trying different connections so it makes me wonder. You could use a tether locker of some sort to keep it up if that is the trouble.

Also, you won’t be able to make big moves but you should at least be able to go from let’s say your chest to the top of your head or better? If you are having trouble with that then your saddle connection point to your tether is too high. Give yourself a little slack so you can move the tether on the tree higher.

Sorry if I am just throwing darts here but I am not exactly sure what is going on.
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Try the Maverick hitch...and try stiffening your tether (several pages back).
There's also a good length formula f[r how far away your hitch should be from your cinch point.
Using a very short bridge, standing feet against the base of the tree or pole, reach up without straining and set your cinch (carabiner, maverick hitch, quicklink, Seekbigger's hitch connect etc) then set your bridge attach point (hitch or MR )to about chin height. Then try sitting in your saddle. If you drop alot due to stretch of the hitch or ropes, stand up, feet touching the tree, and you'll have to push your hitch or MR up a little. Try sitting down again. Your head and body shouldn't drop more than a couple inches.
This sets your ideal length of your bridge attach point to the cinch. You can use a body part to memorize this lengt, so that you can adjust your tether as the trunk gets smaller.
This length is enough to induce slack when the tether is at your chest or chin from your foot tether move, and isn't too long that allows you to reach up on your next top tether move.
You NEVER want to strain to get more height, you'll tire easily and get hot and flustered.
Find a similar height for your foot tether. Make it your own by what feels comfortable but you must have known dimensions for these tether cinch to bridge and footloop attach points or you'll get confused and frustrated.
JMHO
 
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cheecho67 said:
Advancing the tether doesn’t seem I can advance it high enough. I bark is a little challenging it doesn’t help.I trying the J r b cinch , just that part of up with one leg and advancing. What are you doing with the connection?
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Sounds like you don't have the tether height to friction hitch to bridge length dialed in quite yet. The best way to figure that out is at ground level and make one move up and back down, once you get that all set where you need it the movements will become much easier. If you still have problems with the tether snagging or not moving up easily, then adding a tether stiffener or switching to a stiffer rope may be advisable. For my top tether I have always used a girth hitch. I will probably try some other methods for that this off season. And remember small movements will make learning the moves much easier
 
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