Your arrow setup?

[Kurt]

I think if more folks got away from mechanical broadheads and went to CoC, or at a minimum fixed position heads, we as a group would be better off. I don't think 650+ is for everyone. It's pretty easy to up arrow weights with heavier heads. There's a lot of companies out there that are making some nice heads with some weight to them. If you just happen to be putting some arrows together for next year, just look into heavier inserts, different heads, and if your buying new shafts any way look into getting a stiffer spine. In my arrow build research I found the RF Is doing amazing things off of 340 and 300 spine shafts. Most off us are shooting them any way. He's finding that the spine charts aren't as accurate as we all believe they are, but you have to put in some work to see if you even need stiffer shafts. I stayed away from aluminum anything on my arrows. It's easy to put in better components than most are buying at their local shop. It beefs up the arrow and adds some weight to boot. I went the whole nine yards. Stainless steel insert and footer. Went with a heavier cut on contact head, and I beefed up my shafts to boot. It wasn't that much more money and I have insurance against less than ideal shots. I'm learning a ton, and I'm having a good time doing it. Even Ashby said we need to balance trajectories with the weights we shoot, and we need to keep in mind what we're hunting. I don't think we should continue as a group to be satisfied with the minimum, but should in fact be building in insurance against poor penetration. Hand in hand with all this is the need to push arrows farther forward to send all these great heads we all love into the vital V. Instead of shooting 2 inches back from the crease, shoot 2 inches forward of the crease on broadside shots. Bigger plumbing up there. Can anyone argue with the fact that animals would die faster if we could put more super sharp CoC, or fix bladed heads through the larger plumbing farther forward?

 

[Mattyq2402]

Any general direction for an arrow and head for my setup? I'm definately not as sharp as many on here with how and why we choose what we choose. I'm just trying to get ideas for my setup. I like the idea of 450-500 which is much heavier than where I was. I was looking at iron will, magnus, and grizzly heads. Does a 350 spine carbon express SD at 28.5" and 70# sound like a good fit for one of these heads?

 

[weekender21]

I’ve been itching to try out the Iron Will broadheads and components. I just started shooting the wide cuts (also have standard solids) and have to say I’m impressed. Overall arrow weight is 580 grains.

28” Easton Axis .260
225 grains up front (BH, insert, and footer)
580 grains
~17% FOC

They fly great. Hopefully I’ll be able to test this set up on a hog or deer (I love Hawaii) soon. I was shooting the same Axis .260’s @ 530 grains. No issues at all but I’ve been wanting to add a little more weight.

I definitely encourage you to check out Iron Will broadheads. The wide cut is sharper with 30 shots into my target than any broadhead I’ve ever shot one time into a target previously.

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[Kurt]

Any general direction for an arrow and head for my setup? I'm definately not as sharp as many on here with how and why we choose what we choose. I'm just trying to get ideas for my setup. I like the idea of 450-500 which is much heavier than where I was. I was looking at iron will, magnus, and grizzly heads. Does a 350 spine carbon express SD at 28.5" and 70# sound like a good fit for one of these heads?

My first question is do you like to shoot your bow? of course you do!!! It 's all it really takes. Get a field point test kit. Put some weight on the front and see if they shoot. Go on the Ranch Fairy and he spells it out so even I can understand it, and to be truthful, I know I'm not the sharpest shovel in the shed. It takes a little thought and a little time, but you can build a better arrow, using better components and a CoC head. See what RF is doing with 340s and 300s and it leaves you with a better understanding that the spine charts are just a very basic guideline. The proof is in the puddin.

 

[Jason Wandling]

Any general direction for an arrow and head for my setup? I'm definately not as sharp as many on here with how and why we choose what we choose. I'm just trying to get ideas for my setup. I like the idea of 450-500 which is much heavier than where I was. I was looking at iron will, magnus, and grizzly heads. Does a 350 spine carbon express SD at 28.5" and 70# sound like a good fit for one of these heads?

Stay away from 350 spine if shooting 70 pounds. Get a dozen Gold Tip Hunter 300 spine and a 24 pack of 50 grain Gold Tip Fact Weighs. 125 grain broadhead of choice. The FACT weights will allow you to play around with the weight unlike the brass inserts. You will also need the tool for the weights which is around $15. I built 12 arrows for $115(not including broadheads). I settled on 455 grains and have 5 kills at all different angles and distance. My FOC is around 15%.

 

[Cotehex]

Easton Axis 340, 51 grain half out insert, 125 grain deadmeat broadhead, 465 grain total weight pushing 16% FOC.

 

[TJutte]

29" Easton axis 260 with 50 grain brass insert and 150 grain heads. About to try out some FOB vanes. 550 ish grains, 18% FOC. Still tuning, might go to 200 gr heads.

The goal has always been to penetrate an elk shoulder blade, but some south eastern bow shops seem legitimately pissed off when I tell them I'm shooting 260 spine. "Why do you need that for white tail" "you're over spined" "Sir you can't drink that here"

 

[xdmelarton]

While I follow the Dr. Ashby / RF arrow building ideas, I am not a fan of the EFOC as I like to maintain a 250+ fps so I worked through what I had on hand to build a setup that flies good and hits hard with good FOC. This is where I am currently at.
Easton Axis Match 340’s 9.5 GPI
Weight 481 with Easton Nock
Shaft 9.5 gr x28 1/16" 268 gr
75 gr HIT insert
Nock 9 gr
Wrap 9 gr
Vanes x3 18 gr
100 gr Magnus Black Hornet
Balance 18 3/8
Length 28 3/8 nock throat to carbon
Center 14 3/16”
FOC 14.76
*Added 15 gr ethics archery alum footer after above info to offset nockturnal for new total weight of 496 gr @ 15-16 FOC
259 FPS

Weight 496 with nockturnal
Shaft 9.5 gr x28 1/16 268
75 gr insert
Knock 23.4 gr
Wrap 9 gr
Vanes x3 18 gr
100 gr Magnus Black Hornet
Balance 18”
Length 28 7/16
Center 14 7/32
FOC 13.30
*Added 15 gr ethics archery alum footer after above info to offset nockturnal for new total weight of 511 gr @ 14.76 FOC
255 FPS

Footers are a mixed bag.....seem rough on practice targets. I also have a doz Axis 300's that I will start playing with that were built before I got into all of this and they are 500+ gr with 50gr hit inserts. May put a footer on them to get foc up as they are currently at 11%. Bow: VXR 28" DL, 65LB Mods, 85%let off

 

[TJutte]

I follow 80% of Ranch Fairy’s logic with arrows, but I cant get a straight answer out of him when it comes to spine calculations.

My question for y’all is “why is a 200 grain point on a 340 spine “under spined “twizzler” but 600 grain point on a 260 not?” Surely a 260 isnt stiff enough to handle everything short of an anvil just because it’s the stiffest around


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[SnakeEater]

I follow 80% of Ranch Fairy’s logic with arrows, but I cant get a straight answer out of him when it comes to spine calculations.

My question for y’all is “why is a 200 grain point on a 340 spine “under spined “twizzler” but 600 grain point on a 260 not?” Surely a 260 isnt stiff enough to handle everything short of an anvil just because it’s the stiffest around


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I wondered the same thing and actually sent an email to him specifically asking about 340 spine (bc I have a dozen) and 200-250 gr point weight. That was about 2 or 3 weeks go and haven’t heard back. If he ever replies I’ll post it.

 

[Jason Wandling]

I follow 80% of Ranch Fairy’s logic with arrows, but I cant get a straight answer out of him when it comes to spine calculations.

My question for y’all is “why is a 200 grain point on a 340 spine “under spined “twizzler” but 600 grain point on a 260 not?” Surely a 260 isnt stiff enough to handle everything short of an anvil just because it’s the stiffest around


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I had 340 spine arrows that flew great with a 100 grain point. When I put a 125 grain point on it was swatting flies as it went down range. I’m now shooting 300 spine with 175 total up front including the inserts and it flies great. I think 300 is the minimum for 70 pounds and any amount of added weight. 340 is just too weak.

 

[SnakeEater]

I ended up going with 300s as well with 275 grains up front, TAW 550 and FOC 21%. Fly great and my bow is very quiet now.