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Hmm...you're right about that. But I'm confused. If the shelves is less cut out, wouldn't weaker arrows be better for it as it flex more to avoid the riser? Please educate me.
Yes the less amount of shelf cut or no shelf requires a weaker spine to allow the shaft to clear the bow cleanly. That said it only needs to be just weak enough for clearance. If you are already at that point from tuning with 150 heads, going to 200 may result in a poorly flying arrow. Thus the advice someone posted earlier to shoot the current arrow with the 200 head and then decide whether that arrow can be tuned with rear weight or shortening the shaft slightly or if you need to move up a spine.
 
Thank you all for your reply. I think I'll stick with the 150 grains. Wrap the arrows and do 4 fletching. If they fly straight with both 150-200 then I am not going to worry anymore. Sorry for the sidetracking, carry on Trads.
 
Took the "new to me" rig for a sit last night. 15" Morrison riser, Javaman limbs.
I'm liking the shorter length and reduced draw weight. Had to adjust the sideplate slightly, but was shooting great groups within minutes. I added the EFA quiver....I may get a totem for it but not sure yet. It needs new foam anyway. Arrows are tapered Doug Fir with goose feathers I made years ago. Tipped with a 160 ACE standard.
 

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Took the "new to me" rig for a sit last night. 15" Morrison riser, Javaman limbs.
I'm liking the shorter length and reduced draw weight. Had to adjust the sideplate slightly, but was shooting great groups within minutes. I added the EFA quiver....I may get a totem for it but not sure yet. It needs new foam anyway. Arrows are tapered Doug Fir with goose feathers I made years ago. Tipped with a 160 ACE standard.
This is awesome. I’m personally about knee deep in the wood arrow rabbit hole. I’m getting tempted to just go with them permanently. They tuned up quickly and fly great.
 
This is awesome. I’m personally about knee deep in the wood arrow rabbit hole. I’m getting tempted to just go with them permanently. They tuned up quickly and fly great.


Love wood, just more work sometimes. I just got 2 dozen hickory 5/16" shafts from Pine Hollow. All within about 5 grains of each other. $40 a dozen while supplies last. They are around 610 grains full length.....heavy and hard. Pretty straight, hopefully the few aren't too stubborn.

I've got lots of goose feathers if you want something silvery grey and waterproof.
 
Love wood, just more work sometimes. I just got 2 dozen hickory 5/16" shafts from Pine Hollow. All within about 5 grains of each other. $40 a dozen while supplies last. They are around 610 grains full length.....heavy and hard. Pretty straight, hopefully the few aren't too stubborn.

I've got lots of goose feathers if you want something silvery grey and waterproof.
That’s kind but I have a bunch of turkey feathers to work through. That and I like bright colors!
 
This is awesome. I’m personally about knee deep in the wood arrow rabbit hole. I’m getting tempted to just go with them permanently. They tuned up quickly and fly great.
Outstanding. Let me know if you have anymore of those 340 Traditional Only arrows you need to off-load! Those are working great with my setup.
 
Outstanding. Let me know if you have anymore of those 340 Traditional Only arrows you need to off-load! Those are working great with my setup.
You got all I had. All I have left are some beman centershot 340 in the classifieds.
 
Shoot as many as you can and pick what you like, but buy a Black Widow. You'll never be sorry.
 
Love wood, just more work sometimes. I just got 2 dozen hickory 5/16" shafts from Pine Hollow. All within about 5 grains of each other. $40 a dozen while supplies last. They are around 610 grains full length.....heavy and hard. Pretty straight, hopefully the few aren't too stubborn.

I've got lots of goose feathers if you want something silvery grey and waterproof.
Never thought about using goose feathers. You're using the primary flight feathers I assume?

Hopefully this weekend we have a beat down for our resident goose opener
 
This year I'm going way different. I got a 45# black hunter longbow. I know they are relatively cheap, but dang it shoots good. Along with a 350 victory vforce 32" 115 grain collared insert and a 225 vandieman broadhead.
But if anyone has a good quiver idea for this bow, let me know. I'm wanting a 4 arrow preferably
 
This year I'm going way different. I got a 45# black hunter longbow. I know they are relatively cheap, but dang it shoots good. Along with a 350 victory vforce 32" 115 grain collared insert and a 225 vandieman broadhead.
But if anyone has a good quiver idea for this bow, let me know. I'm wanting a 4 arrow preferably

EFA quiver are simple and good quality.
 
This year I'm going way different. I got a 45# black hunter longbow. I know they are relatively cheap, but dang it shoots good. Along with a 350 victory vforce 32" 115 grain collared insert and a 225 vandieman broadhead.
But if anyone has a good quiver idea for this bow, let me know. I'm wanting a 4 arrow preferably

Eagles Flight or Great Northern are good options for bow quivers. I had Ralph “Riverwolf” from Leatherwall make me one of his Alpha Quivers. It’s awesome, I don’t see going back to a bow quiver any time soon. No worries about fletching covers, deep enough for 3” broadheads. It’s well made, quiet, the strata camo looks great. I’m going to lash it to my backpack and to my Pacseat.
 
Never thought about using goose feathers. You're using the primary flight feathers I assume?

Hopefully this weekend we have a beat down for our resident goose opener


Yes, the primaries. They're a little softer
than other feathers.
 

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I had a bow and arrow combo I’ve been shooting for a while turn out to be spine heavy. I had several arrows that were a spine down and about the same length and weight that I tried. They flew so much better so I bought some more of that spine full length. With full length arrows I know could dial it in perfectly with the same weight.

That said, I just bought a Bearpaw Slick Stick off of @KYhunter66 that should be perfect for the stiffer spine arrows I already have set up.

The question will be, do I set up the new bow and hunt with it, or finish building the right arrows for the old bow and use it this season. Too many bows and arrows and choices. Humor me with this one please!
 
I had a bow and arrow combo I’ve been shooting for a while turn out to be spine heavy. I had several arrows that were a spine down and about the same length and weight that I tried. They flew so much better so I bought some more of that spine full length. With full length arrows I know could dial it in perfectly with the same weight.

That said, I just bought a Bearpaw Slick Stick off of @KYhunter66 that should be perfect for the stiffer spine arrows I already have set up.

The question will be, do I set up the new bow and hunt with it, or finish building the right arrows for the old bow and use it this season. Too many bows and arrows and choices. Humor me with this one please!
I'm pretty stuck on not changing anything that works too close to season opening. I would probably try the new bow and if it could be dialed in and shooting as well or better than the current set up, I wouldn't hesitate to switch.
 
I'm pretty stuck on not changing anything that works too close to season opening. I would probably try the new bow and if it could be dialed in and shooting as well or better than the current set up, I wouldn't hesitate to switch.
That’s what I have in my mind as well. If I pick it up and it slings my arrows I already have built well and I can shoot well with it id switch.
 
I had a bow and arrow combo I’ve been shooting for a while turn out to be spine heavy. I had several arrows that were a spine down and about the same length and weight that I tried. They flew so much better so I bought some more of that spine full length. With full length arrows I know could dial it in perfectly with the same weight.

That said, I just bought a Bearpaw Slick Stick off of @KYhunter66 that should be perfect for the stiffer spine arrows I already have set up.

The question will be, do I set up the new bow and hunt with it, or finish building the right arrows for the old bow and use it this season. Too many bows and arrows and choices. Humor me with this one please!
Shoot the new one and keep old one as a back up or vice versa. Choice is up to you. What shoots better for you and what do you feel confident with. The answer only you can answer :)
 
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