I just don’t see any benefit in it. My old assault is 8.5# and way more functional in every way.
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Novix hybrid treestand
- Thread starter Muskyhunter
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I’m surprised they didn’t introduce a similar sized Raider series stand to the old LW Assault. The Raider comes in lighter than their cast Echo, at the same size, by over a pound.
An 8ish pound Raider version of the 9lb “Helo“ seemed more likely than the Hybrid, which weighs in at 8lbs with a much smaller platform.
Anyone actually stepped foot on one of these “machined” Raider platforms?
You cant because some numbnut put the cables where your feet are supposed to go. There are at least half dozen things that could be done to improve on the conventional stand to make it massively more functional for use as a stand or a hybrid setup. The Andy stand design could also be updated and improved without hardly trying. I am not sure it could be redesigned to function better AND climb though. That would take some thinkin time for sure. The younglings coming up with most of this new stuff dont have the experience with all of the old stuff to understand how to really improve the new stuff. Just making it lighter, thinner or flatter does nothing much for functionality.
I wasn’t specific enough. Has anybody stood on any stands or platforms from Raider series?
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It’s kind of an odd duck, how Raider series is made. I‘m just curious what user feedback is.
I will have you know I am one of the sometimers. Wait, maybe that is what I have. I cant remember.
Why can we not make one like that and a separate seat mounted off to either side so you could move it to where ever you want ? Rather than your back to the tree you would sit sideways! The seat could be situated higher on the tree so you don't have to lengthen the tether much to sit. I think I'm going to the shop! The ones we made long ago had to be hooked to the tree, then kinda stomped on to set the spike through the bark. Then you had to hit upward on the stand to free it from the tree. We never had to worry about it coming loose as some have said because it was cammed downward and the spike was solid.
It is easy to mount a seat under the platform for carry and then move it to the top when the stand is set. Another option would be to have an inset space for the seat post and leave it on top similar to current stands. It would need to be inset so the stand would still pack flat on your back. A better option might be something similar to the old Loc-on seat but have the legs attached to the outside of the platform and then just flip it up. lots of ways to skin that cat.
I love the idea. In fact I made seats similar to that out of 1"x 6" deck board. I didn't have the materials or fabrication skills to make it exactly how it needed to be so I did the best I could. Mine were a bit too small, (that's an easy fix) and I didn't attempt to make a steel support rod so I just screwed and glued a triangular block of 2X4 to the underside as a support. It worked pretty well but there was not a lot or torque and leverage on it because of the small deck-board seat. I suspect a larger, adequate sized seat would not work well with those little triangle blocks.
But a rod design similar to the stand support rod would work pretty well.
And with the rod rigged so it can pivot 180 degrees, the seat could be folded down flat against the tree when not in use. The cushioned seat would then become a very nice knee rest.
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Thanks for the idea. In true saddle hunter fashion I had forgot that I had an ooal rut and roost. I bought it to pair with the predator platform a couple years ago but I just didn't have enough room to fold the seat down on that size platform. Not a problem with the LWCG Ambush.
Will that seat fold down flat against the tree? Imo, a fold down seat would be the ideal seat for a hybrid system. Sit on it when you want to, and fold it down flat and use it for a knee rest when you want to hang under the tether.
I kinda think if we had a truly workable, dual task seat/knee rest, we might find ourselves wanting or needing to sit on a seat less.
I'm gonna beat on a dead horse. A seat made from the concept of an Andy stand would be the real deal.
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Crap...needs to fold down so you can kneel on it when it's folded down and out of the way. That "little" detail is a huge detail.
It’s designed so the user sits on it facing the tree and doesn’t have knee-tree pressure.
I definitely see what your saying. I have zero interest in kneeling (bad knees) so this is perfect for me. I am perfectly comfortable on a large platform and leaning for about 6 hours. I will only be using this set up for all day sits
Before saddles,this is almost exactly how I used to hunt. Bigger platform of course. Andy style stand and a strap on seat. not facing the tree . Killed lots of deer that way. It,s amazing how far we’ve come. 180 degrees To the other side of the tree!
LWCG has a new stand out called the Ranger Hybrid for saddle hunters. $499. I pre ordered one. Six week wait.
Let us know what you think of it. I have my eye on this one too.
Some how I missed your post about this. One of the most blatant misses to date in design.