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g2outdoors said:
Great question. I'm glad you brought it up. The way I understand it... the Mantis (and pretty much every saddle) works is the main structure (generally heavy duty webbing) does all the heavy lifting. The belt and the leg straps only serve to keep it in place. Our belt for instance, even though it's load rated, never sees a load. Same goes for the leg straps. They work in conjunction with the belt to keep the Mantis positioned correctly. Even in the event of a fall, the heavy lifting or catching is done with the main construction of the saddle. Ours is made of 6,000 lb webbing. Hopefully that makes sense.
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As Greg hinted, that is not entirely true. The belt never sees a load when regularly hunting but in a fall it does see a load. As Greg noted, most of the load is transferred to the saddle during a normal fall. There is a secondary radial load (hoop stress) that is applied to the belt as the body rebounds from the saddle. There is also a load on the very rare chance the climber falls forward. This is why the belt should be and is rated. The g buckles on the legs are strong but not fall rated. They don't need to be. The belt and saddle are doing the work.

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bongo said:
I mentioned on here that I thought it 3 pounds or less. But I don’t have a scale and Donnieballgame I think weighted his and it was closer to 5. But for me it just makes sense that I only carry the platform. I wear my saddle and tether around my waist. I have a $20 backpack from Walmart that has straps half way down on each side with plastic buckles that I run through each side of the platform and cinch tight. I put whatever in my backpack and that and my bow is it. That’s climbing method and platform all in one. When I get to height I put my hangers on or in the tree and I’m ready to hunt. It doesn’t take very long to climb but if you take your time you can not make as much noise. It’s apparently not for everyone but it really works well for me so I’m going to post it a lot. But that’s why they have different colors because not everyone likes blue.
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I’m already thinking I’m going to bolt Lone Wolf arms on Predator and try it for climbing to see if it works better than Lone Wolf or XOP. But dot tell Ernie or G2.

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I think 4lb-11oz was his weight


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Big Country said:
@bongo Can you make a small video of how you use your system, to include adjusting belt as you climb and securing platform at hunt height? Thx in advance. I'm sure a lot of us would love to see it!
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Sorry don’t have the knowledge or the gear. Red said he had some but I think he saving it for something about Saddle Hunter TV someday.


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bongo said:
Hey at least I didn’t try to blow smoke up your b... and say I would do it sometime. Donnieballgame might . I would but I don’t have any trees in the yard and no one to film for me.


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Right, lol. I'll just practice with the one I have.
 
bongo said:
I will attempt it tomorrow but it will be self filming and if it looks like poop I will not post. So yes the make him feel guilty routine worked Big Country.


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Sorry, really wasn't trying to call ya out, lol.
It doesn't need to be tv quality video like we're used to seeing here. Maybe just some pics. Thx again

I remember seeing you climb a lil bit at saddlepalooza but I was on brain overload with all the new toys and gadgets.


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Big Country said:
Sorry, really wasn't trying to call ya out, lol.
It doesn't need to be tv quality video like we're used to seeing here. Maybe just some pics. Thx again

I remember seeing you climb a lil bit at saddlepalooza but I was on brain overload with all the new toys and gadgets.


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Ya I know what you mean. I didn’t get to see a lot I wanted to there was so much going on at one time. I’ll tell you the YouTube video climbing without sticks is real good but the guy didn’t adjust his strap or tie off his platform.
I’ll give it a shot at the bowrange in the morning but don’t hold your breath. I’ve got a cheap GoPro knockoff but I can’t edit or anything fancy.



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bongo said:
If they do I’m sure I’ll have to have some. But I really like the climber seat platform. I hunt Virginia also and it works for me there too but don’t get me wrong. I have bolts, sticks, trophy steps, sold my spurs but am getting the Kiwi’s. I have Ameristeps, Custom XOP platform thanks to bow hunter 15 custom post. I use them all but not very much. I’m like G2 said the gear is just part of the fun of being addicted to this sport.


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bongo said:
Hey at least I didn’t try to blow smoke up your b... and say I would do it sometime. Donnieballgame might . I would but I don’t have any trees in the yard and no one to film for me.


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Sorry @bongo I'm recovering from a pretty legit back injury, no climbing for me, I'm just hoping to not miss the whole season at this point!

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Big Country said:
Sorry, really wasn't trying to call ya out, lol.
It doesn't need to be tv quality video like we're used to seeing here. Maybe just some pics. Thx again

I remember seeing you climb a lil bit at saddlepalooza but I was on brain overload with all the new toys and gadgets.


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I looked one up on youtube after he posted his method. theres an old video on there of a guy in a Guidos with the hand climber bottom ahowing how to use it. think it was uploaded in 2013
 
donnieballgame said:
Sorry @bongo I'm recovering from a pretty legit back injury, no climbing for me, I'm just hoping to not miss the whole season at this point!

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Sorry man hope you get better. There’s a lot of of new stuff you need to be playing with.


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