Adjustable sticks concept

[Bwhana]

I'm not an engineer or designer, just a thinker! The bane of all sticks, including Beasts, is the bulk. Has anyone tried something like the beast stick, but where the bottom half of the stick is a smaller tube (3/4") that fits into and slides into the upper tubing (1"). If you could design that using a quick detach mounting ?bolt? for the versa button to hold them in place when collapsed or extended, you would have a 3 stick bundle that really would not take up any more room than 6 WE steps @ only 12 or so inches long, or less if you made your sticks short than 24 extended. Rough concept, just wondering if it has been done or anyone here has the knowledge and desire to make it work...

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[NATHAN]

I predict that they are on the way now. Good thinking.

 

[NATHAN]

And to answer your questions, no I’ve never heard of that until now.

 

[elk yinzer]

Dude...

Yeah. I am the same. I can think but I could give two flying fruits to make this stuff myself. But I feel climbing methods no one has perfected yet and this is the next frontier.

I get the fixed steps for chasing weight but they are so inefficient to pack. Just stupid bulk.

The question becomes at what point do you lose the convenience of sticks when you have to assemble components at the tree?

 

[Murph4028]

I actually tried this about 2 months ago. I ordered a bunch of different sizes of tubing in an attempt to make a telescoping DIY stick. The problem was that in order to get them to fit together let alone telescope it took a lot of filing and even then they get stuck together so tight it was almost impossible to get apart without using a vice and a lot of elbow grease. Or I had the opposite problem with way too much play between the two pieces of tubing. I then looked into telescoping 6061 tubing and it exists but it's every expensive. It was a huge let down because I've had this idea in my head for a long time but couldn't pull it off. The measurements have to be almost perfect for this concept to work. Probably why we haven't seen it yet.

 

[Bwhana]

Dude...

Yeah. I am the same. I can think but I could give two flying fruits to make this stuff myself. But I feel climbing methods no one has perfected yet and this is the next frontier.

I get the fixed steps for chasing weight but they are so inefficient to pack. Just stupid bulk.

The question becomes at what point do you lose the convenience of sticks when you have to assemble components at the tree?

That is exactly the concept. The versa button attachment needs to be quick and simple so that you pop it off, extend the stick, then pop it back in to hold the stick full length. Anything more than that defeats the purpose. I am willing to give up some weight loss for the smaller package. But with a smaller bottom half of the tube, the total weight should be less by default. Hoping one of these guys on the site takes this and runs with it. All I want is a set at cost when/if they do!

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[Bwhana]

I actually tried this about 2 months ago. I ordered a bunch of different sizes of tubing in an attempt to make a telescoping DIY stick. The problem was that in order to get them to fit together let alone telescope it took a lot of filing and even then they get stuck together so tight it was almost impossible to get apart without using a vice and a lot of elbow grease. Or I had the opposite problem with way too much play between the two pieces of tubing. I then looked into telescoping 6061 tubing and it exists but it's every expensive. It was a huge let down because I've had this idea in my head for a long time but couldn't pull it off. The measurements have to be almost perfect for this concept to work. Probably why we haven't seen it yet.

Makes sense, but a company like Hawk, API, etc, has the resources to get custom tubing that could work, like the main stick hawk has now. May be round instead of square, but they could come up with a solution. I would love to see it DIY, but would buy a set of commercial in a heartbeat. Maybe someone is lurking on here from one of those looking for ideas?

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[Murph4028]

Makes sense, but a company like Hawk, API, etc, has the resources to get custom tubing that could work, like the main stick hawk has now. May be round instead of square, but they could come up with a solution. I would love to see it DIY, but would buy a set of commercial in a heartbeat. Maybe someone is lurking on here from one of those looking for ideas?

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I completely agree with you. A compact folding or telescoping stick would get my money quick.

 

[EricS]

It would have to be extremely well done not to be excessively noisy. It would have to be a two step stick or the middle step would require welding. No commercial stick is going to be 1/16” and have a welded step so you would have to give up some weight. Sometimes a saving in bulk is worth a little more weight. Manufactures of lightweight bikes use round aluminum tubing made thicker in the weld locations. This technology could be used to make really light sticks. It would require a well designed standoff to stack sticks made of round tubing. A groove cut into the tubing for a snug fitting o ring or felt ring similar to the wiper seal on a hydraulic cylinder would minimize noise without risking the fit being so tight that it gets stuck. The technology to build it is out there. It would require a large investment to order enough quantities of specialty parts to make it close to affordable. If you can live with single steps the lone wolf custom mini sticks are pretty compact.

 

[austin1990]

I’ve been playing with this same concept for a few weeks now. Been to busy with work to mess with it any in the last couple weeks but plan to try and finish it this summer.

 

[rutjr]

Great idea! I cut down my Lone Wolfs and have 8" pieces left over and thought if I made a center piece that would join two sticks to make a 16" stick maybe that would work but I havent done anything with it yet.

 

[hpdrifter]

Ol Man had a set back in 96 or '97. Think they were steel though
still got a set lying around somewhere.
Weren't very elegant. had square tube braces to go against tree.