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Will we see a gen2 carabiner after this?
Just another saddlehunter working on his repel move.
Looks the post is gone. I read it when it went up. Tethrd carabineer that the guy didn't lock. He fell when he went to pull up his bow. He's claiming carabineer gate failure. I'm a little skeptical based on his admission that the carabineer wasn't locked...
This channel on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/HowNOT2/videos while about slackline/rockclimbing has lots of relevant info particularly in their testing to failure of slings/ropes/carabiners etc. which imho is directly transferable.Someone more experienced then me should start a thread that speaks about inspecting gear life span and amount of cycles.
Looks the post is gone. I read it when it went up. Tethrd carabineer that the guy didn't lock. He fell when he went to pull up his bow. He's claiming carabineer gate failure. I'm a little skeptical based on his admission that the carabineer wasn't locked...
Doubt it, Tethrd gets beat up enough on there. Easy to find out who the admins are on any group if you're in them.Curious if OP deleted it or someone else with a vested interest in the company
Perhaps you should start with defining "decent" hang on. Reasonable is relative. You can spend $100 - $500 for a hang on tree stand. The same could be said for a set of climbing sticks, a climbing tree stand and even a ground blind. Whatever option you choose, you can spend a varying degree of cash. The point is, a "decent" saddle can be had for as little as $200 or maybe less if you are resourceful. Yes, you need a tether, and a lineman rope, but those are not expensive. A high quality carabiner can be had for ~$25.00. You don't have to have a rope man, a safeguard, a rapel rope, etc. If you focus on the basic primary necessary components, they can be had "reasonably" especially if you are resourceful by paying attention to classifieds, off season sales, etc. And NOT compromise safety. More importantly becoming knowledgeable of quality components, such as proper rope types, certified/rated carabiners, etc. will enable you to purchase the proper life safety items the first time.I’m not trying to argue or disagree but I would like someone to define “reasonable.” I’ve been told this many times and that’s exactly what made me try to diy my setup. I saw reasonable as what a decent hang on stand would cost because that’s what I was replacing. Now reasonable for someone else may be $500 or more. I could never get in on a used saddle because 1) cost and 2) they get snatched up pretty quickly. So what I came up with was “reasonable “ for me but obviously almost got me hurt. I think we owe it to ourselves, and the community, to be more deliberate in discussing gear and gear life.
To me a descent hang on would be in the $100 range and sometimes even less. There are plenty of climbers/ hang ons in the used marketplace. As for sticks and a harness I have those. The difference between a stand and a saddle being that a person could pick up a used hang on or climber relatively easy. The classifieds here, to quote another member, are pretty robust. It’s supply and demand and I get it. Again I’m not complaining I’m just saying it pushed me to try and DIY too much. It wasn’t that long ago that sourcing good rope was a challenge too. These are factors that need to be taken into account when looking at saddle safety. I messed up, I tried to go cheap to get in on the trend. Thankfully I recognized it and didn’t get hurt. I just wished someone would have told me to stop.Perhaps you should start with defining "decent" hang on. Reasonable is relative. You can spend $100 - $500 for a hang on tree stand. The same could be said for a set of climbing sticks, a climbing tree stand and even a ground blind. Whatever option you choose, you can spend a varying degree of cash. The point is, a "decent" saddle can be had for as little as $200 or maybe less if you are resourceful. Yes, you need a tether, and a lineman rope, but those are not expensive. A high quality carabiner can be had for ~$25.00. You don't have to have a rope man, a safeguard, a rapel rope, etc. If you focus on the basic primary necessary components, they can be had "reasonably" especially if you are resourceful by paying attention to classifieds, off season sales, etc. And NOT compromise safety. More importantly becoming knowledgeable of quality components, such as proper rope types, certified/rated carabiners, etc. will enable you to purchase the proper life safety items the first time.
If you really add up the cost for a decent hang on and decent safety harness, you aren't far off from a decent saddle. I don't care what method you use, we all have to work within our budget. But that doesn't mean we have to compromise safety.
Did the same. Really like the Petzl carabiners.I bought my tether and lineman's belt from Tethrd when I first got into saddle hunting. The screw gate on one of those carabiners (kind of a rose gold color with a gold gate) started acting up and screwing past the stop point. I've since replaced all biners I got from that order with Petzl biners (with the red open indicator) and retired those Tethrd ones to non-life supporting uses. It freaked me out since I couldn't tell who the manufacturer was and that it so quickly had issues. Being so many people are getting into saddles, and people being cheap, who knows what could have happened here!
It's hard to tell what happened from the photos. Definitely need to see more photos.
I think the you tube pressure and the marketing push from certain companies for saddles has been real and its like selling cars pressure. LolI hear ya on being cheap, I’ve done it. One of the reasons I’ve backed off. I just didn’t feel safe with my setup so I called it off. I gave in to the YouTube peer pressure and cut corners to get in a tree as quick and inexpensive as I could. I had a guy on a YouTube channel tell me saddle hunting was worth the expense to do it. I feel we should be telling people it’s worth the expense if you can afford safe gear. I’m afraid with the cost of saddles, supply issues, and an influx of cheap gear this will become a trend.
To me a descent hang on would be in the $100 range and sometimes even less. There are plenty of climbers/ hang ons in the used marketplace. As for sticks and a harness I have those. The difference between a stand and a saddle being that a person could pick up a used hang on or climber relatively easy. The classifieds here, to quote another member, are pretty robust. It’s supply and demand and I get it. Again I’m not complaining I’m just saying it pushed me to try and DIY too much. It wasn’t that long ago that sourcing good rope was a challenge too. These are factors that need to be taken into account when looking at saddle safety. I messed up, I tried to go cheap to get in on the trend. Thankfully I recognized it and didn’t get hurt. I just wished someone would have told me to stop.
Wait. Did you just say I was whining? I admitted my mistakes in the attempt to prevent someone else from going down the same road. Really? Why do you have to go there?Someone did.. you. YOU are responsible for your own safety, not YT or anyone on this forum, or any FB group . YOU suffered the consequences of not wanting to spend the extra $$. Whining about a lack of gear for sale in the forum doesn’t hold any water. I’ve seen quite a few good deals in the last 2 years, $200 & less.
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Only YOU can decide what you want to spend on life safety gear. If you want to cheap out, you certainly have that prerogative, but it's on you. Your safety is unquestionably up to you.To me a descent hang on would be in the $100 range and sometimes even less. There are plenty of climbers/ hang ons in the used marketplace. As for sticks and a harness I have those. The difference between a stand and a saddle being that a person could pick up a used hang on or climber relatively easy. The classifieds here, to quote another member, are pretty robust. It’s supply and demand and I get it. Again I’m not complaining I’m just saying it pushed me to try and DIY too much. It wasn’t that long ago that sourcing good rope was a challenge too. These are factors that need to be taken into account when looking at saddle safety. I messed up, I tried to go cheap to get in on the trend. Thankfully I recognized it and didn’t get hurt. I just wished someone would have told me to stop.