The skeletors will probably catch a good bit of hate, and maybe rightfully so, but if budget is a concern and you don't mind making some modifications and/or sending back a bent standoff the skeletors are great. Krumpf's retractable aider idea is fantastic and easy enough. I put one of them on each stick and made a removable 2-step aider that hangs below the retractable aider on the bottom step. I can get 20' with 3 sticks all day. The stacking pins can be a bit of a PITA but to me it's worth dealing with for the sturdy stackability. I ground bevels on all the bottom standoffs so fingers crossed they hold. The rope connection system has it's pro's and con's but not dealing with a thicker rope or buckle straps, and again the way it all packs up, is just so nice at the price point. If you do go that route, feel free to PM me. I've got leftover knitting needles and wire sleeve for making the aiders and a stinky soldering iron for stealth stripping that I could get rid of.