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Best webbing knot?

okccj

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I'm going to be tying in a fixed bridge with 1" tubular webbing...what's the best low-bulk knot to use? Thanks in advance.
 

shwacker

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Overhand follow-through. Basically creating an overhand on a bight. Keep in mind. All knots reduce your breaking strength. If you find a length you like, consider having it sewn


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noxninja

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I liked using a water knot. But I got rid of the 1" webbing and used amsteel instead
 

beej32

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I recently learned of the beer knot for tubular webbing, which hides the tag ends and is supposedly quite a bit stronger than the water knot (overhand follow-through).

 

shwacker

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1/4 Amsteel is commonplace

Only difference between a water knot and overhand on a bight is that a water knot has two tag ends, OH on bight has one.

Not familiar with the beer knot, but water knots have failed, generally over hundreds or even thousands of loading and unloading. The tag ends will slowly pull in and once they enter the inside of the knot it will fail. That beer knot hides one tag so it would be my concern. Tag ends should be tied with a safety or put some stitches in it to keep it from slipping at all


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pesqimon

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From what I am seeing the beer knot is legit. Playing with a webbing bridge tied with a beer knot. Bridge is over 6000lbs strong.
 

bj139

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You could sew the ends together to keep the ends in place inside the knot..
 

bj139

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yes, I think I will. And also sew it in a few places just to keep the webbing together. Nothing weight bearing.
I was thinking it could be sewed with no knot but I would not do it unless I tested it a lot over many months. With the knot is safest.
 

Vtbow

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Water knot with barrel backup. At least 2" of tail. Thats industry standard in the climbing world.
 
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pesqimon

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I was thinking it could be sewed with no knot but I would not do it unless I tested it a lot over many months. With the knot is safest.

yes, my hangup is I am not ready to sew up a bridge that will be my main life support. But the beer knot is definitely smaller profile than water knots on both sides, with less strength penalty (80% of the webbing’s strength)
 
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pesqimon

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Water knotnwoth barrel backup. At least 2" of tail. Thats industry standard in the climbing world.

I don’t disagree but I been thinking that 60% of 4000lbs is 2400lbs seems a bit low for the climbing world. You may get an increased factor for being in a bridge (a basket hitch variant?) but I don’t know if I want to rely on that because at some angles it seems there is no benefit to the “basket hitch”.
 
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I don’t disagree but I been thinking that 60% of 4000lbs is 2400lbs seems a bit low for the climbing world. You may get an increased factor for being in a bridge (a basket hitch variant?) but I don’t know if I want to rely on that because at some angles it seems there is no benefit to the “basket hitch”.
I'm not going to go into crazy details. Their are lots of options...but...for joining 2 ends of 1" tubular webbing a water knot with barrel backup on each tail end with at least 2" of tail IS the AMGA standard.
 
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bj139

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I used the fixed webbing bridge for a while but just went to two 24" climbing slings girth hitched at one end with a carabiner at the other. I never have to step through the saddle with muddy boots.
 

pesqimon

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I'm not going to go into crazy details. Their are lots of options...but...for joining 2 ends of 1" tubular webbing a water knot with barrel backup on each tail end with at least 2" of tail IS the AMGA standard.

with either knot I am thinking the way to go now is to double it up and use it with the strength benefits of a sling configuration.