Dynamic tethers tested

[Horn]

Well, I have finally come around on YouTube a bit. I do like howNOT2, and today he put out a video testing dynamic and static cows' tails, or PAS or tether depending on who your talking too.

Spoiler: fall factor 2 is bad, just don't get in that situation if you can at all help it.

Probably the only safety related post I'm ever likely to make. I have bought from Extremegear.org and was happy with it, if you'd like some dynamic rope by the foot but are unsure of that site. I'm not affiliated or anything

 

[Spartan]

I shifted to dynamic rope when I started one-sticking, and now use it for all of my saddle setups, even when not one-sticking. Much safer, IMO.

 

[neonomad]

I shifted to dynamic rope when I started one-sticking, and now use it for all of my saddle setups, even when not one-sticking. Much safer, IMO.

The point of the video, I think, is they don’t help much. I run a screamer, would like to see more vids on those.

 

[BTaylor]

I run a screamer, would like to see more vids on those.

Did you mean to post that in the giant beaver thread???

 

[Spartan]

The point of the video, I think, is they don’t help much. I run a screamer, would like to see more vids on those.

In the video, depending on which tests, they had 5-7kn using dynamic vs. 10-13kn using semi-static vs. 13-14kn using the static. Those are post-fall scenarios of you driving to see your doctor because of a hurt back vs. an ambulance taking you to the ER vs. an ambulance taking you to the morgue.

That was my takeaway, and why I choose dynamic rope.

Well, that takeaway and also to avoid the fall factor of 2!!

 

[Horn]

I didn't double check but most of that was with a 300 pound weight. I know we've got some heavier members but I bet the vast majority of us are significantly lighter, and would expect lower forces in a fall. Assuming Jenkie is right about backs breaking at around 7kN those numbers are still far to close for comfort

 

[raisins]

I shifted to dynamic rope when I started one-sticking, and now use it for all of my saddle setups, even when not one-sticking. Much safer, IMO.

Also, the dynamic stuff costs the same and is only slightly bulkier.

There's a possible upside to it without any significant downside.

 

[Fl Canopy Stalker]

The point of the video, I think, is they don’t help much. I run a screamer, would like to see more vids on those.

The “screamer” produced higher forces than the semi static or dynamic in the short drop and it completely broke in the long drop. Hence screamers don’t actually help reduce forces on our end, they reduce force on the anchor points.

 

[NMSbowhunter]

My takeways were 1. Don't climb above your tie in point (slack). 2. Avoid a factor 2 fall. 3. If you have a 2 factor fall and weight 300 pounds you are done, if you weight 200 pounds you had a very bad day or are done., and 4, you might be slightly less mangled if you have a factor 2 fall on dynamic vs static line. And last but not least, I'm glad I weight 150 pounds.

 

[Spartan]

Also, the dynamic stuff costs the same and is only slightly bulkier.

There's a possible upside to it without any significant downside.

^^^^ That. 100%

And my dynamic really isn't any bulkier. They measure a true 8.9mm and 9.0mm depending on which flavor I'm using. Same as the 9mm HTP static I had been using, and still use for a lineman belt.

 

[neonomad]

In the video, depending on which tests, they had 5-7kn using dynamic vs. 10-13kn using semi-static vs. 13-14kn using the static. Those are post-fall scenarios of you driving to see your doctor because of a hurt back vs. an ambulance taking you to the ER vs. an ambulance taking you to the morgue.

That was my takeaway, and why I choose dynamic rope.

Well, that takeaway and also to avoid the fall factor of 2!!

Ah you’re right, was listening in the background while working and just got a little spooked by all forces involved, but indeed dynamic is better. Also better to weigh sub 200 lbs!

 

[Fl Canopy Stalker]

Ah you’re right, was listening in the background while working and just got a little spooked by all forces involved, but indeed dynamic is better. Also better to weigh sub 200 lbs!

Yes sir. I wish there was a magical cure all for fall force but the truth is the only way to limit force is to stay below our connection and limit our fall distances.

 

[BTaylor]

Yes sir. I wish there was a magical cure all for fall force but the truth is the only way to limit force is to stay below our connection and limit our fall distances.

Maybe wear a helmet. You might want to have one at your shindig next year in case someone else wants to throw themselves upon the earth.

 

[Horn]

I don't mean to keep plugging extreme gear but the cowtails/tethers are only 12-15$ for 9 feet. Free shipping starts at $50. Lots of goodies, shouldn't be hard for us gear junkies to rack up that tab

 

[Maverick1]

@Fl Canopy Stalker - knew it wouldn't take long for you to chime in......like a moth to a flame.....appreciate the perspective....

 

[MattMan81]

Hey @Fl Canopy Stalker Becky at REI stands behind the dynamic rope.

 

[Fl Canopy Stalker]

Hey @Fl Canopy Stalker Becky at REI stands behind the dynamic rope.

You remember that? Wow I feel special. Yes Becky from REI is a climbing saddle hunting genius

 

[Spartan]

Who's Becky? She sounds sexy.

 

[Fl Canopy Stalker]

Who's Becky? She sounds sexy.

You gotta visit your local REI to meet her….

It’s a joke from a screamer video/thread we had like two years ago. Not sure about sexy but Becky is all knowing

 

[Fl Canopy Stalker]

Maybe wear a helmet. You might want to have one at your shindig next year in case someone else wants to throw themselves upon the earth.

I’m not quite to that level yet but it’s coming