JX3 Hybrid - Questions for Interview with John

[CooterBrown]

whatever accessories you want, that accept a 1/4-20!

Is John going to start selling accessories for the JX3 this year?

 

[kyler1945]

Is John going to start selling accessories for the JX3 this year?

My money is on yes. But there’s a lot of moving parts, and everyone seems to be using the virus as an excuse(merited or not, not looking to argue). But I bet he has stuff out this year.

 

[gettingstarted]

Pardon the language in advance, don't know how to describe it better:

Just if possible please ask the question what is the reasoning behind anchoring the leg straps to the same point -center of the back frame?

This kinda creates a situation where if you fall and hang on your lineman's belt the center of pressure will be on your tailbone and balls

Is that a safety thing some somekind?

Wouldnt it be more comfortable to attach each leg strap independently closer to the edges of the backframe, as it will redistribute your weight more along the buttcheeks

Thanks

 

[kyler1945]

Pardon the language in advance, don't know how to describe it better:

Just if possible please ask the question what is the reasoning behind anchoring the leg straps to the same point -center of the back frame?

This kinda creates a situation where if you fall and hang on your lineman's belt the center of pressure will be on your tailbone and balls

Is that a safety thing some somekind?

Wouldnt it be more comfortable to attach each leg strap independently closer to the edges of the backframe, as it will redistribute your weight more along the buttcheeks

Thanks

lineman’s belt is used as a device to provide stability, in the form of two points of contact at your hips, to allow you to work hands free. It is not designed to be a fall restraint or arrest device.

but, I’ll ask.

 

[gettingstarted]

lineman’s belt is used as a device to provide stability, in the form of two points of contact at your hips, to allow you to work hands free. It is not designed to be a fall restraint or arrest device.

but, I’ll ask.

I understand the lb function, however should a stick slip or kick out on you , lineman's belt becames the single point of attachment to the tree
Thus instead of horizontal tension on lb, you get vertical one.
Although lb is attached to your hip belt, the weight of your body will actually go on the leg straps, so if both straps go across your balls -- big ouch . Lol

Whereas if you relocate leg strap attachment points away from the center to sides to backframe , your weight will be more distributed.

 

[iamcorey]

This season I’ve had some back issues develop. My saddle sits seem to aggravate the issue.

Thinking of giving the hybrid a try. What are some down sides that I might be missing? Does it maneuver through thick brush well without snagging?

Understand the weight, but it sounds like it’s negligible given the suspension built in. My typical walk these days averages a mile.


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[jbogg]

This season I’ve had some back issues develop. My saddle sits seem to aggravate the issue.

Thinking of giving the hybrid a try. What are some down sides that I might be missing? Does it maneuver through thick brush well without snagging?

Understand the weight, but it sounds like it’s negligible given the suspension built in. My typical walk these days averages a mile.


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I have had back issues for years. I will stuff a spare jacket or small inflatable pillow behind me for a little extra lumbar support and I can sit in the JX 3 all day. I am picking my way through mountain laurel often and don’t have a problem with it getting hung up. I often carry it 3 - 4 miles round trip, and it carries very well. I don’t think you will be disappointed.

 

[kidneystones_3000]

How many pounds of meat can backpack out.

 

[kyler1945]

How many pounds of meat can backpack out.

I’ve carried 10-110lbs in mine when it was stock. The frame will carry as much as you’re willing. But the design makes it less comfortable as weight goes up.

I’ve modified mine a bunch to make it better, but for the average fella, I’d ask - how much are you willing to pack?

and once you get above, say, 50lbs, how comfortable is packing that weight in whatever you currently pack it in? How often do you do it? What’s the relativedifference in packing out 80lbs “comfortably” and “uncomfortably”?

 

[kidneystones_3000]

I just bought a mystery ranch pop up 28 they you can do up to 80lbs I never quarter out a deer before so don't know the answer myself.

 

[kyler1945]

I just bought a mystery ranch pop up 28 they you can do up to 80lbs I never quarter out a deer before so don't know the answer myself.

ive got both. I’ve packed weight in both. Under 50lbs, both get the job done, with slight nod to the pack designed to do it - the pop up. Get up above 75lbs, and most people won’t notice the difference in carry because their body is ill equipped to manage the weight regardless.

point being - the molle frame can handle all the weight a human can. If you’re in good shape, regularly tote bigweight, and are familiar with properly fitted packs, you’ll notice a difference with heavier weight. If you’re not, it will suck either way.

the hybrid CAN do more than you. How is relative.

 

[jbogg]

ive got both. I’ve packed weight in both. Under 50lbs, both get the job done, with slight nod to the pack designed to do it - the pop up. Get up above 75lbs, and most people won’t notice the difference in carry because their body is ill equipped to manage the weight regardless.

point being - the molle frame can handle all the weight a human can. If you’re in good shape, regularly tote bigweight, and are familiar with properly fitted packs, you’ll notice a difference with heavier weight. If you’re not, it will suck either way.

the hybrid CAN do more than you. How is relative.

Well said Kyler. The JX 3 can pack some meaningful weight, although as you said once you reach a certain point it may not be comfortable. If I was considering purchasing the JX 3 I certainly would not base my decision on its ability to carry weight. Think of that as gravy. The one or two times a year I may have to carry a heavy pack out of the mountains I just embrace the suck. As you said, even a high-end pack made for carrying weight can still be a painful process if someone were to load it to the point of exceeding their physical abilities.

At my age I really have to be smart about it if I want to continue hunting like I do. If it’s late season and cool temps I will make one pack out with what I can carry comfortably, and hang the remainder of the meat out of the reach of coyotes and return the next morning.

 

[kyler1945]

Well said Kyler. The JX 3 can pack some meaningful weight, although as you said once you reach a certain point it may not be comfortable. If I was considering purchasing the JX 3 I certainly would not base my decision on its ability to carry weight. Think of that as gravy. The one or two times a year I may have to carry a heavy pack out of the mountains I just embrace the suck. As you said, even a high-end pack made for carrying weight can still be a painful process if someone were to load it to the point of exceeding their physical abilities.

At my age I really have to be smart about it if I want to continue hunting like I do. If it’s late season and cool temps I will make one pack out with what I can carry comfortably, and hang the remainder of the meat out of the reach of coyotes and return the next morning.

That's right. I should be clear too - I always talk about not wanting to make two trips. For context, most of the deer I shoot weigh 80-140lbs. I can debone and be carrying 30-60lbs. On the occasion I shoot a 200lb buck, I'm likely making multiple trips, or getting help.

I think folks overestimate gear's impact on their success/efficiency/comfort/enjoyment, and underestimate the impact that their own physical condition and attitude have on those same things.

 

[gettingstarted]

Just of curiosity, do you have any approximate date when the interview will happen?

Thank you