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Kayak

kbetts

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i like that cart, that looks like a dream to haul a yak around
I like that one too. Did you buy it or build it?


This one is made specifically for a jet ski....hence the reason it looks perfect. Pretty much is. It also doubles as a nice decoy/deer cart. Another lucky find on the used market. Made by Rol-eez I believe. They make all kinds of stuff for transporting across soft ground. You can buy the wheel assembly seperate as well. I just saw a 2 wheel version listed on the local CL.
 

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Iron_llama

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thats why i wear chest waders in my yak from October to May lol
I wear rain bibs in my solo canoe when I'm out in colder weather. And wear wool. While I acknowledge that neoprene waders have some buoyancy, I've swum in 'gumby suits' before, and it's much easier said than done. It's tough to climb back into a boat with full waders, somewhat less difficult if the water can drain out your cuffs while attempting to self-rescue.

what would be the difference(s) between a sit-in vs. sit-on kayak vs. say a pirogue in terms of safety or needed experience?
I'd say that a SOT kayak is easiest to learn, with pirogue at the opposite end. Conversely, I'd say that singlehanding a pirogue (or 2-person canoe) is the safest and most versatile, but requires the most technique to operate. With a SOT kayak, you will get wet. That's the idea, to splash around at the cabin in the summer, catch some fish, and if you fall off (unlikely) you can get back on easily enough. Learning to paddle a straight course in a pirogue or tandem canoe takes technique, and practice, but once you master it there are few things you can't do with it. I've seen canoe guides in the BWCA with a canoe full of gear, sometimes towing/pushing another canoe, to aid stranded clients, on more than one occasion - and they move faster and more nimbly than the tourists on the water with them. But that's the result of hours on the water.

If you get a 15ish' canoe on Craigslist, with conventional bench seats, sit in the 'front' seat, facing backwards. Put a weight - cinderblock, rock, 5 gallon bucket of water, your pack, whatever, in the 'bow', as far 'forward' as it will go, to counterbalance your body weight. Take this setup fishing all summer. By the time hunting season rolls around you'll know whether or not it's a good idea to take this same rig hunting, and you'll also have a good idea on how to pack your gear, deer, etc inside.
 

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You couldn't get me to wear waders or rubber boots in a canoe or kayak in the cold.

Run the boat up on some skim ice in the dark and think about flipping over...

Ask me how I know ...
When your setting traps out of a kayak you kinda have to wear waders or you're gonna be hypothermic fast .

Don't run any boats in the dark with ice possible. I always worry about hitting things I can't see with any boat in the daylight. Id be schizophrenic about it in the dark
 
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SNIPERBBB

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mine has a skeg wheel, i grab it by the front handle and drag it on the skeg wheel. i dont need to portage it very often, but sometimes i do when duck hunting
Depends on the yak you have ... You get one the kevlar kayaks that don't weigh anything you can manhandle those pretty easy. Problem is they don't like rock. I think my rotomolded ascend kayak is 60-70# unloaded without seat. You can drag em but it will eat up the bottoms if you drag it over hard ground/rock
 

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You couldn't get me to wear waders or rubber boots in a canoe or kayak in the cold.

Run the boat up on some skim ice in the dark and think about flipping over...

Ask me how I know ...

Don't know how you do this without getting wet. I've spent a lot of time in boats. You aren't staying dry.

A wader belt is there for a reason.
 

kbetts

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I wear rain bibs in my solo canoe when I'm out in colder weather. And wear wool. While I acknowledge that neoprene waders have some buoyancy, I've swum in 'gumby suits' before, and it's much easier said than done. It's tough to climb back into a boat with full waders, somewhat less difficult if the water can drain out your cuffs while attempting to self-rescue.


I'd say that a SOT kayak is easiest to learn, with pirogue at the opposite end. Conversely, I'd say that singlehanding a pirogue (or 2-person canoe) is the safest and most versatile, but requires the most technique to operate. With a SOT kayak, you will get wet. That's the idea, to splash around at the cabin in the summer, catch some fish, and if you fall off (unlikely) you can get back on easily enough. Learning to paddle a straight course in a pirogue or tandem canoe takes technique, and practice, but once you master it there are few things you can't do with it. I've seen canoe guides in the BWCA with a canoe full of gear, sometimes towing/pushing another canoe, to aid stranded clients, on more than one occasion - and they move faster and more nimbly than the tourists on the water with them. But that's the result of hours on the water.

If you get a 15ish' canoe on Craigslist, with conventional bench seats, sit in the 'front' seat, facing backwards. Put a weight - cinderblock, rock, 5 gallon bucket of water, your pack, whatever, in the 'bow', as far 'forward' as it will go, to counterbalance your body weight. Take this setup fishing all summer. By the time hunting season rolls around you'll know whether or not it's a good idea to take this same rig hunting, and you'll also have a good idea on how to pack your gear, deer, etc inside.

Can't agree. A canoe or pirogue is going to be the most tippy of all of them. I can stand on the side of mine. You aren't standing in either of the previous two for very long.
 

Allegheny Tom

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Don't know how you do this without getting wet. I've spent a lot of time in boats. You aren't staying dry.

A wader belt is there for a reason.
I guess it depends on where you are getting in and getting out of the boat. There are places we paddle that we can get in/out of the boat and barely get tennis shoes wet. Then there are other place where you just can't position the boat in such a way that would allow stepping into shallow water.
And noise is always a factor. Yeah, sometimes you can plow your way tight enough to the bank to allow dry access in/out of the boat. I personally hate boat noise. I try to be as quiet as possible as much as I can.
Wear and tear is another factor. I'd rather be able to step into slightly deeper water (because of appropriate foot wear) and keep the boat from scraping and banging on stuff.
 
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Tough to beat a frontier nucanoe with a motor or trolling motor for hunting. It can take some pretty rough water. I will suggest power though if you are on a body of water with wind and current. The wide frontier is hard to paddle in the wind and current. Here is a video of my frontier in white caps on a river. 2.3 honda on the back. I have been out where wind and current made it tough to make headway with a 55lb thrust motor.

 

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I use a 55 # on my Frontier. It works well for where I am shooting carp. Can be tough getting back across the lake in wind w/200 # of carp in it.