Kong duck or rope man 2?

[Tim0712]

As the title says I’ve narrowed it down to two options. I’m gonna get on board with the 8mm tether/lineman hype just want some opinions from guys who have used them first hand

 

[denots]

I use a ropeman 2. Some do not like the teeth. Never been a problem for me. I have not found them excessively hard on rope, or at least worse than rough bark trees.

 

[Patriot38]

Kong duck. The ropeman 2 blows compared to any other mechanical device. The teeth are WAY too aggressive on the ropeman 2.

I have used both and there is no comparison. I can't even use the ropeman 2 one handed because of how much the teeth snag the rope sheathing.

Theres a reason ropeman 2's go for $25 and its nearly impossible to find a duck under $50.

Please, do yourself a favor and stay away from the ropeman 2.


Ropeman 1's are sweet and almost worth the extra rope diameter. But if you are set on 8mm the duck can't be beat for saddle hunting.

 

[Tim0712]

Kong duck. The ropeman 2 blows compared to any other mechanical device. The teeth are WAY too aggressive on the ropeman 2.

I have used both and there is no comparison. I can't even use the ropeman 2 one handed because of how much the teeth snag the rope sheathing.

Theres a reason ropeman 2's go for $25 and its nearly impossible to find a duck under $50.

Please, do yourself a favor and stay away from the ropeman 2.


Ropeman 1's are sweet and almost worth the extra rope diameter. But if you are set on 8mm the duck can't be beat for saddle hunting.

I have a rope man 1 now and was considering Mayb keeping my tether 11mm just to keep the rope man 1 but at the same time that defeats my entire purpose of wanting smaller rope. But either way thank you for your input it’s greatly appreciated

 

[Patriot38]

No problem. I wish I kept my ropeman 1 and 11mm lineman belt. I love the 8mm tether though.

My ideal setup would be 8mm tether with duck and then any lineman belt with a ropeman 1 thats in spec for safety. I really like the functionality of a ropeman on a lineman belt. Its much quieter but a kong duck can be just as effective and quiet with a little practice. I tend to keep my tether pretty set once I find the right length. I only make small adjustments throughout the hunt so the noise doesn't bother me one bit. Its actually surprising how quiet they can be even though the carabiner goes inside the metal hole.

 

[Fl Canopy Stalker]

As the title says I’ve narrowed it down to two options. I’m gonna get on board with the 8mm tether/lineman hype just want some opinions from guys who have used them first hand

Rope man 2

 

[Fl Canopy Stalker]

Kong duck. The ropeman 2 blows compared to any other mechanical device. The teeth are WAY too aggressive on the ropeman 2.

I have used both and there is no comparison. I can't even use the ropeman 2 one handed because of how much the teeth snag the rope sheathing.

Theres a reason ropeman 2's go for $25 and its nearly impossible to find a duck under $50.

Please, do yourself a favor and stay away from the ropeman 2.


Ropeman 1's are sweet and almost worth the extra rope diameter. But if you are set on 8mm the duck can't be beat for saddle hunting.

Rope man 2 are $49.99 and I have never had that issue because you do not release mechanical rope grabs while under load. I will say if you pull the chord under load that the teeth will grab the sheath but I’ve not experienced that if I take the weight off before advancing or releasing. So since you have both, do you want to sell your rope man 2 for $25? If so I’ll take it! Lol

 

[Fl Canopy Stalker]

I have a rope man 1 now and was considering Mayb keeping my tether 11mm just to keep the rope man 1 but at the same time that defeats my entire purpose of wanting smaller rope. But either way thank you for your input it’s greatly appreciated

Get you a 10mm tether. Smaller and lighter and stronger than 11mm and stronger than oplux. Still allows you to use the rope man 1 but the rope man 2 is a good rope grab as well

 

[phatkaw]

I have a rope man 1 now and was considering Mayb keeping my tether 11mm just to keep the rope man 1 but at the same time that defeats my entire purpose of wanting smaller rope. But either way thank you for your input it’s greatly appreciated

Make your existing tether your new LB and get a Duck for your new 8mm tether.

I have a bunch of different ropes for whatever.
NONE of my linesman ropes are 8mm. I want something stiffer for that...
A soft/supple rope in my experience sucks for a LB.

 

[Jfow85]

Get you a 10mm tether. Smaller and lighter and stronger than 11mm and stronger than oplux. Still allows you to use the rope man 1 but the rope man 2 is a good rope grab as well

This is exactly what I did n it works great. You'd be surprised at how much lighter the 10mm feels. IMHO

 

[Zero One Actual]

Or solve all your problems and use this for your LB and tether. I run a Kong Duck for my LB but use a schwabisch for my tether with a figure aider from Genesis 3D printing.

Edelrid Swift Protect Pro Dry 8.9mm Tether/Lineman Belt

Not ANSI rated - With sewn eye ABS is 4000lb when pulled straight. The Swift Protect Pro Dry is the first dynamic single rope with built-in cut resistance. This means high-strength aramid fibers are integrated into the rope sheath during the braiding process. This increases the cut resistance of...

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Figure Aider

Introducing Figure Aiders: the product that started it all. These 3D-printed tenders enable you to effortlessly adjust the friction hitches on your tether and lineman's rope with just one hand. Crafted to be non-weight bearing, they ensure safety and reliability in your setup. There are two...

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[HuumanCreed]

Or solve all your problems and use this for your LB and tether. I run a Kong Duck for my LB but use a schwabisch for my tether with a figure aider from Genesis 3D printing.

Edelrid Swift Protect Pro Dry 8.9mm Tether/Lineman Belt

Not ANSI rated - With sewn eye ABS is 4000lb when pulled straight. The Swift Protect Pro Dry is the first dynamic single rope with built-in cut resistance. This means high-strength aramid fibers are integrated into the rope sheath during the braiding process. This increases the cut resistance of...

arbsession.com

Figure Aider

Introducing Figure Aiders: the product that started it all. These 3D-printed tenders enable you to effortlessly adjust the friction hitches on your tether and lineman's rope with just one hand. Crafted to be non-weight bearing, they ensure safety and reliability in your setup. There are two...

genesis3dprinting.com

You can make a tender for a prussic with a small piece of paracord. Its literally nothing but a figure 8 loop. Cost 5 cents. I do this for Lineman belt, I think it work better than a mechanical. Or EWO sell a mini Kong tender for $1 which look pretty cool actually. Some people even simply use their carabiner by looping the rope into it.

I dont link mechanical for lineman belt because I dont feel that its totally one hand operation, you have to release tension on the device then pull the tab. With a friction hitch+ tender, you just squeezes the knot while there is tension to move down, and pull the rope/tender against the knot to go up.
I think Average Jack video is a great explanation.

But a Kong is by recommendation if you want mechanical.

 

[Zero One Actual]

You can make a tender for a prussic with a small piece of paracord. Its literally nothing but a figure 8 loop. Cost 5 cents. I do this for Lineman belt, I think it work better than a mechanical. Or EWO sell a mini Kong tender for $1 which look pretty cool actually. Some people even simply use their carabiner by looping the rope into it.

I dont link mechanical for lineman belt because I dont feel that its totally one hand operation, you have to release tension on the device then pull the tab. With a friction hitch+ tender, you just squeezes the knot while there is tension to move down, and pull the rope/tender against the knot to go up.
I think Average Jack video is a great explanation.

But a Kong is by recommendation if you want mechanical.

Thank you for this info sir.

 

[Brocky]

I use the cord figure eight by putting both eyes on carabiner and have the double fishermen’s knot push up the hitch. Tying the eyes is easiest, sewing and using a heat resistant cover a little more work. The core can be taken out and the cover buried to form a grommet which has a sewn eye on each end.

 

[Fl Canopy Stalker]

This is exactly what I did n it works great. You'd be surprised at how much lighter the 10mm feels. IMHO

And if you get the right brand it packs down really small too. The only negative I have seen is some 10mm don’t accept knots as well but if you’re using a sewn eye it doesn’t matter. You can always run a few holding stitches through if you do decide to tie a knot. Overall I thoroughly enjoy 10mm rope! It’s the best of both worlds

 

[HuumanCreed]

I also advocate a little larger rope, at least 9mm so you can be in spec of most mechanical devices. 'Packability' is not that much of an issue with saddle hunting because we are not carrying 100+ ft. Nothing wrong with 8mm Oplux, just usage of larger rope is easier IMHO.

 

[Zero One Actual]

I also advocate a little larger rope, at least 9mm so you can be in spec of most mechanical devices. 'Packability' is not that much of an issue with saddle hunting because we are not carrying 100+ ft. Nothing wrong with 8mm Oplux, just usage of larger rope is easier IMHO.

That’s why I’m such a fan of the Edelrid 8.9. It’s the best of both worlds. Abrasion resistance is top notch. It is dynamic, not static and it’s size packs easily if that’s your worry. It works with the mechanicals if that’s your worry and it still works with sterling 6mm TRC for you non mechanical guys also. @Brocky gets full credit for introducing me to it. I’m just trying to share it with others who may not know about it yet.