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Modified Cain's Method for WE Stepps

Looks really simple. But, there's too much slack in the tether for me. If the lower step fails ... boom!
 
boyne bowhunter said:
Here I go again copying a Cain innovation but I've been asked by a couple of guys to put together a video of my slight modification to Cain's method for WE Stepps.

Full credit to the climbing method to @Cain. Without his original video I would never have considered this but I did find that I had trouble just kicking off the tree like Cain to find my way to the next step. Snowy boots, wet trees and my oldness just made it difficult. I tongue in cheek refer to this as Cain's Method for OFG's (old fat guys). I thought this might be helpful to guys considering WE Stepps but, like me, aren't particularly comfortable using aiders and lineman's belts.

Hope this helps. Thanks once again Cain!

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Great video. The vertical lineman rope and carabiner at waist level really intrigued me ever since I saw the Cain method. I used it for some time lst year and modified things just a bit. Hope this helps.

I didn’t incorporate the additional D ring into my saddle because of the noise. I basically just inserted the carabiner into the same position as your D ring with the flip gate facing up. Between the buckle and tri-metal slide.

I had the same issues that a few others have mentioned here with feeling that I was leaning too far away from the tree while clipped in at waist level. This also seemed to making it more difficult when putting the next step on the tree. I ended up switching back to a standard lineman’s rope so that I could really cinch it tight and hug the tree while setting the next step above my head. That change really helped me stretch out my step spacing.

Currently I am running the standard lineman’s belt and have a carabiner inserted into my saddle at waist level so I can clip onto a step when going around limbs. I get a lot of leverage by flipping my lineman rope up as high as possible (just above the height of the step that is at waist level). I am only 5’8” but I am averaging 6.5-7ft for every 2 steps. This puts me carrying 8 steps and I can get between 26-28 ft to my feet when I need to get that high which is not very often.
 
Thanks for the time to put together a video! Being an old fat guy when I first saw Cain’s video I didn’t give it much thought. Figured this was something for the young studs. Finally gave it a try on a whim and was shocked how well it works. Like your idea using the quick link. Had been attaching my tether to the step. Seems this might work well using the LWHC seat as well.


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I have a mantis. I don’t like the idea of a buckle holding the D ring. I think I’ll use the riggers belt.


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fawnzy said:
I have a mantis. I don’t like the idea of a buckle holding the D ring. I think I’ll use the riggers belt.


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I actually put the same D-ring on my Mantis, which I use most of the time anyway. The only issue I've found with it is that the D-ring is sized for 1 3/4" webbing and the Mantis waist belt is 1" webbing so there's a little up/down to slop in the fit. I used the Kestrel in the video simply because the D-ring fits it better and it wouldn't raise a bunch of questions about why I was using the wrong size D-ring on the belt.:)

It actually helps in one regard though. I don't have to twist the carabiner as hard to hook/unhook to the step using the D-ring on my Mantis. Another option, which I did before adding the D-ring was to simply hook the carabiner around the waist belt. It worked good that way but I couldn't personally get past the feeling that I might accidently unhook the buckle if it got entangled with the carbiner. I realize its not likely but it was always in the back of my head.
 
I’ll have to play more, at ground level.


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DNanks said:
I'll have to try this once my saddle comes. Do you mind if I modify OFG to MAFG. I'm not old but I'm told I'm middle aged.
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Well truth be told, my brain hasn't quite come to grips with the fact that my body is turning into an OFG. Finally quit playing hockey this year (I think anyway) but I'm still climbing trees like a kid.
 
Kind of an older thread but I've something to add. I was practicing this and doing alright until early last winter. Fresh wet snow and icy tree bark. Trying to get my foot to the step looked like something out of a cartoon. The fix I came up with was to use a knaider to hook the stepps. Give this a try, really reduces the amount of effort involved.
 
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