Does anyone use a mss for short overnighters? Ive been wanting one for awhile, wanting to know what y’all think.
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Modular Sleep System
- Thread starter BoTheHunter
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Not familiar with it myself but there appears to be a lot of info out there on YouTube.
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I have used them for years. The system is heavy at about 10lbs. The temp rating is not based on comfort but the ability to survive and is figured on the inclusion of ECWCS. The information on the rating is available on the internet.
The system is extremely durable, will keep you dry in severe wet weather and is more than warm enough for most situations.
I have used it on backpacking trips but when doing so I lighten my pack by excluding other gear. This is not the best system for backpacking.
My backpacking bag is a KUIU 15 degree down bag. Worth every penny spent.
We have a MSS for each member of our family. Even with it’s short comings it is an extremely valuable piece of equipment.
Norkal
The system is extremely durable, will keep you dry in severe wet weather and is more than warm enough for most situations.
I have used it on backpacking trips but when doing so I lighten my pack by excluding other gear. This is not the best system for backpacking.
My backpacking bag is a KUIU 15 degree down bag. Worth every penny spent.
We have a MSS for each member of our family. Even with it’s short comings it is an extremely valuable piece of equipment.
Norkal
I am not using an MSS but I went back to hunting public land this year and I am planning to add a hammock, tarp, and sleeping pad to my gear for Christmas. As I have hit my 40's in age, the sleeping in the truck routine just isn't working for me any more. I like the idea of the all weather hammock that I can disconnect and stow in my back seat instead of setting up a tent or bringing the camper.
I made my own hammock, top quilt, under quilt and tarp. It’s awesome. Warm, comfortable and light.
Like others have said. Functional, bulletproof and HEAVY. I got one thinking I would like the versatility, but honestly, if you are doing any kind of overnight where you need to carry the system any distance, you are better off with a modern bag that is a fraction of the size and weight.
I use dutchware chameleon hammock. Superfly Tarp and under quit from warbonnet. Made a week long elk hunt in it with a cheap Walmart synthetic puffy blanket. It didn’t cut it. A quality down top quilt is on the list before next years trip. Everything else performed great. Didn’t have to worry about roots and rocks in my back, or unlevel ground. Temps got down in the low 30s. Had a hail storm and stayed perfectly dry. Had lots of room to store my gear under the superfly tarp and hang cloths. Easy set up and pack up as we hiked around the mountain for over a week.
I use a warbonnet hammock, with home made silnylon tarp and underquilt, I will add a top quilt to have the full set up, which is ultra light but warm and dry. I have been making my kit as I go and almost complete from experience I have got rid of gear and made as I go, I think it will be the perfect set up for being able to carry and hike, fly. I will make a single layer warbonnet style hammock to match the tarp and underquilt eventually,regards wayne
I've never tried sleeping all night in a hammock so my questions and comments are purely out of curiosity because on the face of it, it would seem like a hammock would be way lighter, quicker and more comfortable than sleeping on the ground, but I always hesitate because I am a sleeper who moves around a lot and sleeps mostly on my stomach. I'm not a back sleeper at all really so those of you who like the hammock, are you naturally back sleepers or doesn't it really matter?????
I have never slept on my stomach due to knee surgery and my leg won’t go fully straight so it’s not a position I can try but I am a side sleeper, you can get a perfect flat lay with a hammock setting the foot end higher, the warbonnet style hammock has a foot box area so it lends to a flatter lay, I can’t see why you couldn’t lay like this at all. A good under quilt and top quilt is a must as it can get colder hanging so it’s essential to have the right gear, also having a top quilt is easier to get in and out of as a sleeping bag is not ideal but doable. My down kit packs down to about the size of a coke can, my 13ft tarp only weighs 13oz including stuff sack and about the same size as the under quilt, the hammock set up really does lend itself to backcountry hunting /camping. It is really easy to set up and take down to keep moving, I would urge anyone to give it a go, it is a bit more expense for a good set up but it’s worth it, I didn’t do it in one go I have done things as I go so I know from starting out how things have got better with upgraded quilts tarps and just slimming kit down to what actually works for me, Regards Wayne
We are issued a MSS setup in the Army. It's warm and works, but like the others said, is pretty heavy and bulky. If I'm backpacking or hiking it's not going with me. If I'm going to live for months outside and have access to easy transport in a duffel bag, it's going with me every time.
I use a ENO double nest hammock. Hated the idea of having under quilts and heavy blankets, so I bought an army surplus bivy sack that comes with a sleeping back that will snap into it. Rated for well below zero and wind/waterproof. So I just take the hammock with daisy chained amsteel to hook it up to the trees and then throw in the bivy sack with the sleeping bag into the hammock and I usually take a tarp to put up over the hammock to keep off the dew and keep the wind down as well. Super lightweight system and will work in almost every condition. Also, it's super cheap. I want to say I got the hammock for 35 bucks, tarp for 60 if I remember correctly and then the surplus bivy and sleeping bag for 30. So all in for everything around a 100 bucks.
I hammock camp a lot, If you are interested in hammock camping in cooler weather check out Hyke and byke. They have down sleeping bags that are made fir hammock camping they go under the hammock because they have a slit in the end with a drawcord. The insulation on the back side does not get compressed
I sleep on my side and stomach and flip back and forth all night swapping sides. In a hammock I sleep on my back for some weird reason. I sleep good too. Occasionally, I’ll get on my side. Something about the shape and contour of a hammock makes back sleeping work for me while a bed doesn’t.
I have a sheet of tyvek(use as a floor and for cleaning critters) inflatable pad, EE quilt, ultralight bivvy, SO silex and silvertip floorless shelters(trying to use and decide which I want to keep long term). Whole setup weighs about 6lbs, uses my trekking poles to set up, and packs pretty damn small. I can easily pack it while day hunting and make camp if I decide to stay overnight.