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November 12th, going to sleep with fingers crossed.

Matty

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So I have been doing all day sits the past week or more and I'm getting beat up and tired. I've seen two shooters, lots of young bucks and almost had a shot at a good one at 12 yards, but it happened too fast and I couldn't shoot.

So today I slept in. Planned on going somewhere around 9ish, but after checking Scoutlook, I noticed the wind was set to switch drastically around 11, so I waited until 11, grabbed some lunch, ate it in the truck and then started my long walk.

I made my way into an area that I hadn't set foot in yet this year, but year in and year out, it features big buck sign as the rut hits. This year was no different and the sign didn't disappoint.

With the giant scrape and huge rub right in front of me and thick cover surrounding me, I knew I would hunt this spot at least one other day this year. So I chose to drill out bolt holes instead of just using climbing sticks. Finally around 1:40pm I was settled in and ready to kill.

Around 3:00pm I decided to do a few doe bleats, I was going to sit and not make a sound, just because I was so confident in all the sign, but something just felt right, so I did a few bleats.


Around 3:10 I catch movement to my right. Deer...Big body...70 yards and closing. Buck....SHOOTER!

I am already slowly rotating to hide behind the tree better and setup for a shot at the scrape. He is now at 25 yards and working a different scrape overhanging branch. I have no shot over there. After working the scrape over and scenting the air, he makes his way towards me. However, instead of walking right to the main scrape, he veers slightly and ends up walking 5 yards from my tree. The angle is no good and he's on the same side as me now. Fortunately he turns and decides to visit the main scrape, which is about 16-17 yards away from me. He ends up walking up to it and I come to full draw, he's broadside, auto-pilot takes over and I watch the arrow bury deep, a little low, but looked really good, heart shot I'm thinking. I check my phone, it's exactly 3:18 and I just put an arrow through a real nice public land buck. I'm kind of on top of the world, but also know that nothing is guaranteed, and that even if he is down, a ton of work lays before me.

When the arrow hit, it sounded great and from what I saw, looked great. He mule-kicked and ran hard for 80 yards before I couldn't even catch glimpses through the thick cover.

I didn't hear him crash, but the oak I was in still had leaves and the wind was giving them a thorough shake.

So, I waited until 4pm just to be safe. Expecting to climb down and find a blood soaked arrow, instead I was surprised by a lot of white hair, a little fat and hardly any blood on the arrow. There was a little on the fletchings though, so it appeared to be a pass through. The arrow didn't smell like guts and no gut juice on it. It was also facing back at the stand, so it kind of "fell out" of him I guess, but right where he stood at the shot. I sat pondering what to do....I decided I'd likely back out, but wanted to check a short distance ahead for blood just in case. I don't want to lose an easy recovery to all of our wonderful coyotes (that's sarcasm, I hate them).

So after a few minutes of slowly and carefully following roughed up leaves, I finally spotted a couple drops of blood. Few more, then suddenly the blood gates opened and it was a red carpet. My hopes were high.

Hopes, "were" high...Until I got to the powerline about 100 yards away and still don't see a dead buck. On the other side of the powerline, private property that I can't access....I tracked blood up to the line and glassed around from there just to make sure he wasn't right there.

I'll go back in the morning and speak to the people that work for the company that owns the land, see if I can beg someone for permission to track.
My hopes aren't high though. A lot of people sneak on that property to hunt illegally, so my guess is they won't be very welcoming to a hunter.

So right now, I'm either tagged out, or completely dejected. We'll see what tomorrow brings. Like I said though, I doubt I'll be allowed to recover the deer.

So as of right now, I'm completely dejected, but holding out a small amount of hope.

I'll attach a photo of one of his rubs (theres a few just like it)...the primary scrape I was hunting over and what most of the blood trail looked like. I'm always amazed at how much blood deer can lose and keep going. With the amount of blood on the ground, I'd have been dead after the first 20 yards.

The scrape is more impressive in person than the picture. You can't see all the chewed up licking branches and the scrape is actually bigger than what I got in the picture. Perfect example of the type of scrape worth hunting over.
 

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I'll keep my fingers crossed for you Matt! If you manage to get access and want help tracking or dragging (and I have a cart) I get out of work at 2. Pm me if you want my number. That blood looks good. Stay positive!
 
Yeap that's good blood for sure. Can you call the game warden and see if he can gain access if the owners don't want you to cross the line? I would at least give it a shot.
 
Thanks Scott. I appreciate it. I'll see what the morning brings.

I have a few people willing to help already too, so if I get permission and it comes down to a grid search, I may enlist your help also, but for now, I'd say get out there yourself if you're out of work at 2 and use your second buck tag of the season. I don't want to take up anyone elses valuable time. Really do appreciate the offer though! Keep those fingers crossed too.

I'm really hoping I can get in there and look. I feel like theres a good chance he's not that far into that property. It wouldn't be my biggest buck, but it was definitely a good buck, especially for this piece of heavily pressured land.

NWFLBowhunter, I'm not sure. I'll check into it if they say no. Good idea.
 
Blood looks good. I lost a big ol' fat mama doe last tuesday. Still bothers the heck out of me.

If you ask them politely you track onto their property they may be willing to grant you access. IMO the 'hunters' who trespass are the worst and ruin it for everyone else. We always have issues with trespassers on almost all of our properties in here in SE LP Michigan.

I hope you can recover him. That rub looks beast.
 
d_rek,

Sorry to hear that. It never get's easier does it?

I've realized I take losing an animal harder and harder these days. Doe or buck, doesn't matter. As the years go by, I'm harder and harder on myself when it comes to this. I feel like you can't afford to make even the smallest mistakes when you're dealing with taking somethings life.

Unfortunately, over the course of 24 years of bowhunting, I've lost three very large bucks. Every time I have to take at least a short break because it's just too devastating. I really hope this isn't #4. If it is, I'll probably just focus on trapping and start planning for next season. We'll see.

Good night guys. Thanks for the moral support!
 
So if you dont get permission to go look for your deer. Pm me and i will go look for it for you.
 
I don't advise trespassing into a commercial property. You can and should expect to deal with law enforcement if you're caught.

A guy I know and his father went onto DTE property (energy provider) here in Michigan. They were promptly caught by site security. Sheriff was called and they were booked and fingerprinted. They also were put on a list by the company of known trespassers. They didn't press charges but if it happens again they will prosecute.


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Matty said:
Thanks Scott. I appreciate it. I'll see what the morning brings.

I have a few people willing to help already too, so if I get permission and it comes down to a grid search, I may enlist your help also, but for now, I'd say get out there yourself if you're out of work at 2 and use your second buck tag of the season. I don't want to take up anyone elses valuable time. Really do appreciate the offer though! Keep those fingers crossed too.

No Problem Matt. I will be out, but like I said, I'm willing to help! Good luck and let us know how it goes :D
 
Should have crossed more than my fingers.

Finally fell asleep around 3am after studying aerials of the neighboring property all night, trying to see if there's somewhere he was trying to go with his route. Woke up at 4:15 to the alarm, arrived at the complex by about 5:00am. 5:15 the first person showed up and said it was fine. Good enough for me.

I immediately went to last blood and began searching, made it a short distance and then I lost blood. Took a little while, but I finally made progress again and found heavy blood after a short distance. Unfortunately, I only ended up with about 30 more yards of blood trail and then it stopped. So the blood trail only took me about 140-150ish yards in total. After that, I couldn't find a drop anywhere.

I tried carefully following any roughed up leaves, deer trails, straight line from last blood, every other path that seemed possible, circling around last blood for hours. I couldn't find anything.

So around 9am I turned it into a grid search. I had two friends and my brother come out to help me look. While waiting for them, I decided I would loop way out around the area to a creek and then train tracks I saw on the map. I wanted to see if blood crossed either of those, to somewhat determine if he had left the area. Once I circled back around and met up, we began the grid. Covered everything, but no luck.

Before the drive home, I drove around every road that was nearby, glassing fields, peering into woods. Probably looked like a child predator in the one neighborhood, but I had to try, it's worked for me before. Not this time though.

I'm tired, hungry, sore and broken-hearted.

Part of me wants to quit hunting and part of me wants to get back out tomorrow.

I do plan on watching the area for buzzards for at least a few days. It's my only last hope. At the very least it may shed some light on what happened.

Feel horrible wasting a beautiful buck like that.
:oops: :(
 
Hey man its probly not the first time and wont be the last time. Its bowhunting. They are super tough critters. If he did die it sux but not one bit of it will go to waste. Gonna bug ya till ya arrow a bigger one. So go hunt. I lost a nice 8 last month, hit him high felt like crap. But then i just arrowed a big 11 last week. So ya cant let it get ya down enough to not go back and try again.
 
Hope you get him. Blood looks awesome. Shouldn't have gone much further. I've seen that white hair and fat. In my experience usually means a heart shot. They either run like hell or tip over in sight.
 
Matty, that's a bummer! Take a few days off if you need it, but don't give up! This happens to everybody, and if they say that it hasn't or they never lose deer, BS!! (I think you know another thread somewhere else that I am referring to...). This is part of bowhunting. It is what makes it so hard and challenging! That is why we do it! If I got every deer that I ever shot or shot at, overall it wouldn't be fun. Situations like this are EXACTLY what makes it that much more rewarding when you walk up to that big one that you finally got laying on the ground. Even more so on public land!

Hang in there, regroup, rest up, and get back out! This is a mental game and you need to be confident so do whatever that takes. Last year I went through probably my worst stretch every. I lost 3 deer in a week! 2 of the deer were shots that I thought for sure the deer should have run off and fallen over, one of them very similar to yours. The other one was a quartering away shot that I hit high and didn't get good penetration. I was at my lowest of lows after those. I even had a big mature 4 point, the biggest I have ever seen, with tons of mass but just not a lot of points, broadside at 15 yards and I didn't shoot because I wasn't confident. I regrouped after the rut, and between Winter bow until now I have a 5 in row streak going (although I probably just jinxed myself lol).

Like I said, hang in there!
 
I JUST WENT THROUGH THIS WITH MY DOE. BLOOD FAT AND WHITE HAIR. I WONDERED WHERE I ACTUALLY HIT HER ? HOPE YOU FIND HIM.....GOOD LUCK .
 
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