If you mean how much tail I think 1-1/2in is enough, but watch that bugger routinely because if it slips through your in for a ride potentially.
The length between the hitch and the eye knots doesn’t effect the function of a Michoacan, but it will for other hitches like the VT and Distel. Tails on knots generally only need to be about five times the diameter of cord or rope.I have a newbie question. How long should the ends be from the knot to the carabiner? After I did the knot the length of the two ends seemed short. But after using it hunting on the tether there's 4 1/2 inches from knot to carabiner. That seems like too much.
I'm using a schwabisch. And yes, from the knots the carabiner runs through and the length from those to the hitch.Are you calling the ”hitch” the knot, or are you referring to the knots the carabiner runs through and the length from those to the hitch? I too don’t have the correct answer. I know from trial and error (safely hanging in my basement) the longer those are the harder it is to get the hitch to tend, but it shouldn’t change how it bites. Are you running the swabisch or Michoacán? I’m running a short bridge, so it’s not as big of deal for me. Even still, I’m keeping mine pretty short, plus running my 11mm tether back through my biner to serve as tender. The actual loose tags coming out of the knots on the biner are at least 4-5”. I can grab the tag, and it comes out the other side of my palm. I’ll take a pic of my setup tomorrow.
O what i get is shorten the distance from the hitch to the carabiner and increase my knot tailsThe length between the hitch and the eye knots doesn’t effect the function of a Michoacan, but it will for other hitches like the VT and Distel. Tails on knots generally only need to be about five times the diameter of cord or rope.
It looks like you are using poachers knots at the carabiner. Consider a scaffold knot which has another turn and is therefore less likely to slip. if you are shortening the length from hitch to biner this will also help use that excess tag end. Be safe!S
O what i get is shorten the distance from the hitch to the carabiner and increase my knot tails
Thank you Gents for the help.
Thank you I dont mind safer!It looks like you are using poachers knots at the carabiner. Consider a scaffold knot which has another turn and is therefore less likely to slip. if you are shortening the length from hitch to biner this will also help use that excess tag end. Be safe!
I'm using oplux with the 5.5 beal kevlar cord, https://doublesteps.com/product/beal-kevlar-5-5mm-cordelette/I’m really liking the Michoacán hitch. Just got to be sure to set it initially or sometimes it slips. After the first set on oplux it has always set. And it has never binded where it didn’t easily released when I wanted it to. It’s better than my ropeman on a linemans belt.
The length between the hitch and the eye knots doesn’t effect the function of a Michoacan, but it will for other hitches like the VT and Distel. Tails on knots generally only need to be about five times the diameter of cord or rope.
The rope entering the knot is the usual breaking point, both the loop and the two eyes are the same this way. There would be a difference if they were tied to something with a smalll diameter, then I think the two eyes would be the stronger option.i do have an offshoot question- is a prussik loop created with double fisherman's knots stronger than tying the fishermans directly on to the biner?
I'm interested in this set up. Where do I purchase them?Just tried the Sticht Hitch on Oplux with the BW 7mm and got excellent results. Grabs each time, no slippage, and easy to release, adjustable for the amount of friction the wraps get. The rap ring in front is needed to form a slight bend in the rope. The brass wedding band in back isn’t needed, but makes tending easier.
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