Tethrd Phantom vs. WE Yarak?

[enkriss]

I’ve tried both the Yarak and phantom and for me the phantom is a better saddle.
I just don’t care for the pleat walking in with the saddle on.
I feel Tethrd has found a saddle design that just simply works without all the bulk.
We are all different in size and setup style so others may have a totally different opinion between these two saddles.
You will have to try both yourself to know which one is best for you.




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I think I agree. Need more time with the phantom though. I have tried a couple pleated saddles and am just not sold on that design.

 

[huntin_addict]

I was going to pick up a pleated mesh saddle from a maker that will remain unnamed, however, after the brief amount of time in the Phantom, I'm going to cancel that order.

 

[onestringer]

I think I agree. Need more time with the phantom though. I have tried a couple pleated saddles and am just not sold on that design.

Looking back I wish I had described "pleated saddles" like you did instead of just saying they sucked in a public venue

 

[backstrap19]

Looks like I have some comparing to do this weekend....

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@enkriss i'm anxiously awaiting your thoughts.

 

[Chrighton]

I'm anxiously waiting to buy the yarak to compare myself.

 

[backstrap19]

I'm anxiously waiting to buy the yarak to compare myself.

That's a long line!!

 

[enkriss]

@enkriss i'm anxiously awaiting your thoughts.

My thoughts are...

buy a phantom.

Lol

 

[backstrap19]

My thoughts are...

buy a phantom.

Lol

before the phantom, would you have said buy a yarak?

there isn't much out there about a phantom that isnt a glowing review. This is looking like the real deal.

I like how you kept it short and sweet. hahaha.

 

[enkriss]

before the phantom, would you have said buy a yarak?

there isn't much out there about a phantom that isnt a glowing review. This is looking like the real deal.

I like how you kept it short and sweet. hahaha.

seeing the phantom and how small it was I was not thinking comfort. But it really is quite comfortable.

The yarak I used the entire season last year. Spent about 50/50 sitting/leaning and used a ring of steps about 80% of the time and predator and ridge runner the rest.

I thought the yarak was pretty comfortable. A little too much seat for straddling the tree. I would have to fiddle with pulling the bottom strap up or it would dig into my legs. The leg buckles were terrible. I guess the same on the kite? I cut the buckles off and put ghooks on. The mollie layout is terrible also. However, before the phantom came out I felt the yarak was the most comfortable saddle followed by the kestrel. I did some hanging in the phantom this weekend. I then put the yarak on and wondered how the hell I used it all season.

 

[MNarrow]

Nice enkriss. Phantom it is!!!!!

 

[backstrap19]

seeing the phantom and how small it was I was not thinking comfort. But it really is quite comfortable.

The yarak I used the entire season last year. Spent about 50/50 sitting/leaning and used a ring of steps about 80% of the time and predator and ridge runner the rest.

I thought the yarak was pretty comfortable. A little too much seat for straddling the tree. I would have to fiddle with pulling the bottom strap up or it would dig into my legs. The leg buckles were terrible. I guess the same on the kite? I cut the buckles off and put ghooks on. The mollie layout is terrible also. However, before the phantom came out I felt the yarak was the most comfortable saddle followed by the kestrel. I did some hanging in the phantom this weekend. I then put the yarak on and wondered how the hell I used it all season.

that is a really nice evaluation of the yarak. those are hard to come by, since so few of them exist. I was really looking forward to a flex/yarak comparision to the phantom, and you just did a great job. things are looking phantom!

 

[Ontariofarmer]

seeing the phantom and how small it was I was not thinking comfort. But it really is quite comfortable.

The yarak I used the entire season last year. Spent about 50/50 sitting/leaning and used a ring of steps about 80% of the time and predator and ridge runner the rest.

I thought the yarak was pretty comfortable. A little too much seat for straddling the tree. I would have to fiddle with pulling the bottom strap up or it would dig into my legs. The leg buckles were terrible. I guess the same on the kite? I cut the buckles off and put ghooks on. The mollie layout is terrible also. However, before the phantom came out I felt the yarak was the most comfortable saddle followed by the kestrel. I did some hanging in the phantom this weekend. I then put the yarak on and wondered how the hell I used it all season.

I used a flex or Jx 3 most of last year. I found the flex comfortable but I want less bulk too. If I want comfort I will take my JX 3.
I do hope the phantom or recon or even the H2 solves the bulk comfort balance. I could never get comfortable in a mantis. Thanks for the review. The phantom is in the mail. The recon and H2 have been delivered.
The Kestrel was comfortable too but more bulk and weight than is necessary.

 

[Tapeworm]

seeing the phantom and how small it was I was not thinking comfort. But it really is quite comfortable.

The yarak I used the entire season last year. Spent about 50/50 sitting/leaning and used a ring of steps about 80% of the time and predator and ridge runner the rest.

I thought the yarak was pretty comfortable. A little too much seat for straddling the tree. I would have to fiddle with pulling the bottom strap up or it would dig into my legs. The leg buckles were terrible. I guess the same on the kite? I cut the buckles off and put ghooks on. The mollie layout is terrible also. However, before the phantom came out I felt the yarak was the most comfortable saddle followed by the kestrel. I did some hanging in the phantom this weekend. I then put the yarak on and wondered how the hell I used it all season.

Thanks for the comparison & reasoning


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[Teddy9871]

With the phantom I've found you can get pretty comfortable leaning and sitting with your knees in the tree or cradling the tree, its a lot more comfy than my trophyline but it's still not on the same comfort level as my recon sling. I do have a kite and flex on order but its going to be another month or 2 before I can get my hands on them. The cruzr saddles are nice, they're probably the closest thing to a yarak you'll find for awhile

 

[backstrap19]

With the phantom I've found you can get pretty comfortable leaning and sitting with your knees in the tree or cradling the tree, its a lot more comfy than my trophyline but it's still not on the same comfort level as my recon sling. I do have a kite and flex on order but its going to be another month or 2 before I can get my hands on them. The cruzr saddles are nice, they're probably the closest thing to a yarak you'll find for awhile

have you sat in a cruzr?

 

[mikear]

seeing the phantom and how small it was I was not thinking comfort. But it really is quite comfortable.

The yarak I used the entire season last year. Spent about 50/50 sitting/leaning and used a ring of steps about 80% of the time and predator and ridge runner the rest.

I thought the yarak was pretty comfortable. A little too much seat for straddling the tree. I would have to fiddle with pulling the bottom strap up or it would dig into my legs. The leg buckles were terrible. I guess the same on the kite? I cut the buckles off and put ghooks on. The mollie layout is terrible also. However, before the phantom came out I felt the yarak was the most comfortable saddle followed by the kestrel. I did some hanging in the phantom this weekend. I then put the yarak on and wondered how the hell I used it all season.

Thanks for the review. The Phantom sounds like a real contender. I’m probably in the same boat as several folks around here, but I’m trying to get into a saddle for the first time before next season. Tidbits like this really do help.

Probably a long shot, but do you have a Recon sling or similar to review vs the Phantom as well (is it too soon to ask)?

 

[enkriss]

Thanks for the review. The Phantom sounds like a real contender. I’m probably in the same boat as several folks around here, but I’m trying to get into a saddle for the first time before next season. Tidbits like this really do help.

Probably a long shot, but do you have a Recon sling or similar to review vs the Phantom as well (is it too soon to ask)?

No, I don’t have any plans to get a recon sling. I am pretty content with what I have right now.


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[Teddy9871]

have you sat in a cruzr?

No I haven't, I wanna see what I think of the expansion pleat when my flex comes before ordering one of the cruzrs. I like their adjustable bridge option