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The Piled-High Club

And many others of us had no such woodsman mentors in our younger days. We hang around here eagerly gobbling up the nuggets yall bestow. Thank yall so much!

You’ve got @Nutterbuster for a mentor, you just didn’t know it. He’s the one that had the foresight to put this thread together.

With every day that passes I realize how lucky I was to have the family I grew up with. Be a shame not to share what I can. Especially here, because God knows I’ve learned a ton from the folks on this site.
 
You’ve got @Nutterbuster for a mentor, you just didn’t know it. He’s the one that had the foresight to put this thread together.

With every day that passes I realize how lucky I was to have the family I grew up with. Be a shame not to share what I can. Especially here, because God knows I’ve learned a ton from the folks on this site.

Ironic that the force behind all this doesn’t have a members only jacket. Lol. Imagine what others could contribute if allowed to. C’est la vie.

Don’t you think?
 
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For the PHC members:

Think of someone you thought was a better hunter or killed more deer than you that learned from, paid attention to, etc.

What’s something that you figured out, and led to success for you, that you thought “man, if only so and so did xxxxxxxxxxx, they’d be unstoppable”?

Or “I can’t believe so and so doesn’t do xxxxxxxx”…
 
There are many, but one that applies almost universally to most things, but especially hunting, is to slow down, and don’t rush things. When you hurry, you make more mistakes, alert more animals…. Of course that does not apply if you need to run to a spot to cut off a deer or turkey on the ground and it is your only option.
Learned this from a guy that was like a ghost that still hunted 90% of the time and always killed the biggest bucks doing so annually on our club. He’s gone now, but would laugh at this whole saddle hunting thing!
 
For the PHC members:

Think of someone you thought was a better hunter or killed more deer than you that learned from, paid attention to, etc.

What’s something that you figured out, and led to success for you, that you thought “man, if only so and so did xxxxxxxxxxx, they’d be unstoppable”?

Or “I can’t believe so and so doesn’t do xxxxxxxx”…
My mentor never played the wind And never practiced scent control. He just hunted. He also over hunted trees A lot. However he was the original mobile hunter. He moved constantly w/ his climber. Eventually he ran into ‘em, More times than not he killed them. Most patient hunter I’ve ever seen. If he played the wind and practiced scent control, he would’ve been unstoppable. His wall was full and he killled 100’s of deer w/ a bow.
 
I know a lot of folks I consider way better hunters than myself. The ones from back in the day, they didn’t talk. If you ordered ice cream from them they would hand you a vanilla bean and smile.

The present ones that I associate enough with to know their style/methods I don’t think I have anything to offer them.
 
For the PHC members:

Think of someone you thought was a better hunter or killed more deer than you that learned from, paid attention to, etc.

What’s something that you figured out, and led to success for you, that you thought “man, if only so and so did xxxxxxxxxxx, they’d be unstoppable”?

Or “I can’t believe so and so doesn’t do xxxxxxxx”…
Some of my most influential hunting mentors never hunted from a tree stand nor picked up a bow. My Dad, my Brother in Law,(who was considerably older than me) And a close friend’s father, were all excellent woodsmen and deer hunters. They got it done throughout the decades of shotgun slugs only and by hunting on the ground. My Dad could tell you any tree in the woods by looking at its bark. He would scout and find terrain features, points, travel corridors and always say, “The deer will be in there.” Or, “The deer will move through there in the morning.” Many of their legacy stand spots (and again these “stands” were literally stumps, or “The old milk can by the Big Corner Beech,” on an inside corner, or the “Blind Over the Bank” were just locations they found over the years that funneled deer movement. These men grabbed a cushion or just stood with their backs against a tree. My Dad was a giving type, would find the best spots and surrender them to me and other family members. He truly got enjoyment through other peoples success and being the one who found the clutch locations. He shot his fair share of deer and some bucks but lead others to many more. My brother in law had an impressive wall of bucks in his day. Employing the same tactics as my dad. And many of my Dad’s chosen spots. My best friend’s dad was what we called a “Stitching Hunter.” He would find lowland cover spots, swamp edges, upland successional growth areas near feed fields and after posting in the morning would loop back in and out along these transitions like a sewing needle into fabric and in so doing would often come upon deer or see them moving and get a shot. He had some great bucks to his credit in those days as well. This was the era of “brown is down,” or any rack will do, I can’t imagine their success if they would have been Bowhunters or hunted from treestands or saddles or even had a sliver of the deer knowledge we all enjoy nowadays. I’m sure many of us know men like these too. Don’t laugh at my meager upbringing and our pragmatic display of game…. Here are some pics of my Dad and I in his later years.
 

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Woodsdog2 brings up something I haven’t really thought about much.

We did a lot of man drives in my early days of hunting and it honestly made me a better hunter. You covered most of the woods you hunted and saw the sign and learned where the bedding would be and the travel routes and other features. I still apply that knowledge today, but I’m probably like most of you and fall into the trap of not spooking up the woods too much during the season thinking it will make my hunting better, especially on private land that I know well. Maybe I should not let the old ways die and do a few more walkabouts than I have been!
 
Woodsdog2 brings up something I haven’t really thought about much.

We did a lot of man drives in my early days of hunting and it honestly made me a better hunter. You covered most of the woods you hunted and saw the sign and learned where the bedding would be and the travel routes and other features. I still apply that knowledge today, but I’m probably like most of you and fall into the trap of not spooking up the woods too much during the season thinking it will make my hunting better, especially on private land that I know well. Maybe I should not let the old ways die and do a few more walkabouts than I have been!

I’ll save the detail for the “piled medium club” thread I’m going to start at some point. But I’ve killed over half the deer I’ve killed from the ground. And there’s zero chance I get to piled high club in my lifetime if I dont do the walking I do currently.
 
That one horned buck looks like a brute. What's the story behind him?
Ha, this was my first decent bedding buck when I started putting 2+2 together in setting up on bedding areas. I kinda chuckle as so many people talk now about hunting beds or bedding as something new but we really have all probably been doing it for years. I was getting frustrated not seeing anything with decent antlers my Dad said “I think they’re on MaryLou’s property during the day.” I went out the afternoon before and scouted the heck out of that place. It had snowed and I found some decent sized tracks fresh from that morning going into the thick area known as MaryLou’s property. I couldn’t hunt that afternoon and the wind wasn’t right anyway so we looped way around the next morning and pushed into that area before first light. Just after sunup this buck was walking from my left to right coming into the thick area most likely to bed. I couldn’t tell then he had one whole side broke off but I saw a decent rack with the naked eye and put the open sighted 1187 up as he was working through the thick brush a good 55-60 yards away. Nobody I hunted with or used binoculars back in the day in our hunting circles. The wind was settling in a low spot and he was coming down from the feed fields into the thick bedding area for the day. Those were some of the first lessons on paying attention to access and setting up early on intentional movement back to bedding. I was on the ground standing in front of a big tree to break up my outline when I saw him come in.
But the truth be told, I would have shot that buck that day even if I knew he had one side broken off. But I honestly didn’t see it until I walked up to him.
 
I was just reading the how deer see (something along those lines) thread and someone mentioned deer seeing horizontal movement. Well that reminded me of something my dad told me the first time I ever went deer hunting and it always stuck with me and I told my son the same on his first hunt.

Everything in the woods with few exceptions is aligned in a vertical manner. Except deer. Deer are aligned horizontally so learn to look at the woods and with respect to identifying horizontal lines. You can scan everything else, but when you see horizontal lines stop and investigate them until you know what they are. Chances are great it will be the line of a deer’s back or the line between the brown over the ribs and the white of the belly.

He also told me to understand the fact that you will rarely see the entire deer so once you’ve identified a horizontal line start looking for the round of the eyes, the white around the ears, the white line mentioned above and the white patches on the inner legs, face and neck. I can’t tell you how many thousands of time I’ve seen deer in my lifetime by following that advice. In fact, that was almost 50 years ago and the last hunt of this season, New Years Day, I say a horizontal line that turned into a bedded doe. I could only see about a 12-15” section of her back and nothing else, but I had convinced myself it was a deer. Then about 25-30 minutes later she stood up and erased any doubt.
I don't even remember where I heard this, but it's stuck with me so long that it's not something I even think about... Sometimes you just take certain things for granted.
 
For the PHC members:

Think of someone you thought was a better hunter or killed more deer than you that learned from, paid attention to, etc.

What’s something that you figured out, and led to success for you, that you thought “man, if only so and so did xxxxxxxxxxx, they’d be unstoppable”?

Or “I can’t believe so and so doesn’t do xxxxxxxx”…
My dad is probably one of the best woodsman and hunters that I know, corresponding with a high body count. Growing up I remember my dad hunting in blue jeans and a flannel. I would probably have to say that he over-hunted individual stands, and didn't play the wind at all; but he was deadly. And all that was before trail cameras, etc. If he had used the wind to his advantage, I can only imagine!

My youngest brother still fits loosely into that mold, and is an absolute killer.

I have a buddy who is absolutely phenomenal on mature whitetails, but there's probably nothing he can do better, other than keep gaining experience, because there's nothing that isn't acknowledged or accounted for... He is quite possibly, on targeting specific mature deer, the most successful hunter that I know.

I wish I had the time that they do, or that I used to, because time in the woods is probably the best way to stack the odds in your favor!
 
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