This is why bears suck

[Blinginpse]

Ur money isn’t good here

I just gotta figure out away to track honey guy down


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I had a feeling you'd say that. Well let me have your address then. Please

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[Topdog]

I don't think I've ever met a farmer that doesn't poach to protect his crops! But, I completely agree with you on baiting being easier. It is still not always a guarantee though however. If I ever wanted to kill a bear without the bait I'd sit between the blueberry fields and a bog. They'd still produce.

Thats a poor choice of words right there.... If you think your more of a sportsmen hunting over donuts and grease to make another youtube video then some farmer who is “defending” his property, not poaching, then my guess is we would not get a long, fyi I am not a farmer, but have a lot of friends that are, and I respect there property as if it were my own, anybody that plans on hunting a farmers property should do the same.... or move on.

 

[d_rek]

Im honestly kinda surprised by yall. The hunting community toots its own horn about "true" conservationism an awful lot to be advocating an all out vendetta against a native species whose habitats *we* are encroaching on.

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When humans make the conscious decision to encroach/destroy habitat, we must also take responsibility for the creatures in that ecosystem, for better or worse. Sometimes that means 'managing' that game species in a way that mitigates/prevents human-animal conflict. We can rarely 'undo' the loss of habitat to allow the native species to go back to managing itself. Thus, modern conservation and game management.

 

[woodsdog2]

I have tried to grow oranges from FL seeds several times here up north and inside and they never pan out for some reason.

 

[woodsdog2]

I am looking into getting a nuisance permit for the bear damage on the sawtooths we planted. May be too late now seems like they hit them for a couple of days then they're done. NY does have provisions for nuisance permits for Bears for property damage and/or public safety risk. This bear certainly isn't a public safety risk.... yet. This is the first time we have been getting so many pics of bears though. Before it was spotty but now each week.

 

[Blinginpse]

I am looking into getting a nuisance permit for the bear damage on the sawtooths we planted. May be too late now seems like they hit them for a couple of days then they're done. NY does have provisions for nuisance permits for Bears for property damage and/or public safety risk. This bear certainly isn't a public safety risk.... yet. This is the first time we have been getting so many pics of bears though. Before it was spotty but now each week.

They in the corn yet?


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[Weldabeast]

I have tried to grow oranges from FL seeds several times here up north and inside and they never pan out for some reason.

They like sandy soil and direct sun.....if u grow a tree from a seed 99% of the time it will be sour....u graft a clipping off an already established sweet tree and u turn ur sour tree sweet...u can graft different citrus trees together and have a tree that produces different fruit....if u want juice regular Florida orange is good ....if u want to eat check out satsuma...they tolerate cold a little better and sweeter and easier to peel

 

[Blinginpse]

They like sandy soil and direct sun.....if u grow a tree from a seed 99% of the time it will be sour....u graft a clipping off an already established sweet tree and u turn ur sour tree sweet...u can graft different citrus trees together and have a tree that produces different fruit....if u want juice regular Florida orange is good ....if u want to eat check out satsuma...they tolerate cold a little better and sweeter and easier to peel

Is it hard to graft a orange? Apples don't seem to be bad

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[woodsdog2]

They in the corn yet?


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I'm not sure I wish I had access to a drone. Not that I can see from binocs but we do have an old silo I could climb but still not sure I could see the entire cornfield. We are trying to stay away as much as possible we have a couple of really nice bucks we don't want to booger things up too much.

 

[Blinginpse]

I'm not sure I wish I had access to a drone. Not that I can see from binocs but we do have an old silo I could climb but still not sure I could see the entire cornfield. We are trying to stay away as much as possible we have a couple of really nice bucks we don't want to booger things up too much.

Yea i het ya but understand bears will push deer out

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[ImThere]

So where do I sign up for the bear hunt?

 

[woodsdog2]

Yea i het ya but understand bears will push deer out

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I know that's the other reason I would like the NP. We're still having pics of both but that could soon change. About five years ago on the first day of bow season I had a sow and two different age classes of cubs under my stand. The larger cubs were in the 60-80 lb. range the other two cubs looked to be in the 30-40lb range. The sow started to head right toward my stand and you can't shoot bears in groups here in NY and at about 10 yards she must of caught my scent and she darted off to my right. That's when I saw the little booger cubs they were following right behind her. The larger ones were out ahead of her causing all kinds of ruckus. After the sow and the three other cubs took off, I couldn't see the fourth one again and then I felt a ting ting on the bottom rung of my ladder stand, I looked down and the darn thing was starting to climb. I moved my hand down a little bit and it took off too. Needless to say I saw no deer that morning at all.

 

[Topdog]

I am looking into getting a nuisance permit for the bear damage on the sawtooths we planted. May be too late now seems like they hit them for a couple of days then they're done. NY does have provisions for nuisance permits for Bears for property damage and/or public safety risk. This bear certainly isn't a public safety risk.... yet. This is the first time we have been getting so many pics of bears though. Before it was spotty but now each week.

Call your local Warden, if he feels your damage is substantial you will get a visit from the biologist more than likely, then they usually determine whether a nuisance permit will be issued, a nuisance permit in NY is not a “trophy hunt” as they put it and you must kill any bear doing the said damage and you can keep the meat they take the hide and head, I am not near you I don’t think or I could get you to the proper contacts fast, we used to deal with a lot of these permits for corn damage.

 

[woodsdog2]

I know the four ECO's in my county so that's a good idea I might text them to see. Good advice!!

 

[Topdog]

I know the four ECO's in my county so that's a good idea I might text them to see. Good advice!!

Yup you should be in good shape, they are usually good to deal with.

 

[Weldabeast]

I didn't get any of that knowledge passed on to me.....I was just a picker.... Can't be too difficult....my great grandfather was a mason that immigrated and built bridges up north.. He learned of cocina and traveled down too Florida to check it out.... He and my great grandma moved from NY to Florida driving a dump truck he purchased with all their belongings in the back. He built block homes until he had the funds to buy the farm and plant 50 acres of orange, tangerine, and grapefruit.....I spent summer and winter break with them and we all go pick orange when they ready.... They died when I was still to young and stupid to appreciate...

 

[Blinginpse]

So where do I sign up for the bear hunt?

Possibly get ya behind a pack of dogs after a bear in these mtns in December.

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[Topdog]

Possibly get ya behind a pack of dogs after a bear in these mtns in December.

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We own hounds, my brother mostly now but thats how we have always hunted, bobcats and coyotes all winter, used to run bears in the summer, and we have been to Montana after Lions

 

[gcr0003]

Possibly get ya behind a pack of dogs after a bear in these mtns in December.

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Aren't they just wanting to hibernate then? I always heard it said don't poke a sleeping bear, never thought of shooting one though.

 

[Blinginpse]

Aren't they just wanting to hibernate then? I always heard it said don't poke a sleeping bear, never thought of shooting one though.

Thats about the time.they go in yes. But thats when Virginia has its season for.hounds

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