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Timber Ninja Outdoors

TreeMunkie said:
Having watched the evolution of carbon-fiber bicycle frames, I recall the same concerns about durability. It took the engineers a little while to understand the new material and some of the early designs were nothing but carbon tubes glued into metal head-tubes and bottom brackets. But since then there have been real leaps in design, performance, and durability. My road bike doesn't have much metal on it at all. If there is market demand there will be carbon-fiber climbing sticks.
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You should listen to Chasing Tails podcast, Jason from Timber Ninja has a background in bike racing & other outdoor sports where carbon fiber has had gains. He definitely seems to know his stuff.


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mtsrunner said:
I’m camping with the owner of Timber Ninja this weekend, so I think I will actually have my hands on them.


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I figured you guys would hit it off....ya'll are too much alike. Guess I will get to try your new carbon fiber sticks next year at the Greater Carolinas Hangtime! Jason at Timber Ninja Outdoors is not the type of guy to halfa$$ a product so I am sure these sticks will be the real deal. He is a big guy..... 6'2 and he used them all year so I am sure that they would support my 160 pounds no problem.
 
BudgetBuck1 said:
I figured you guys would hit it off....ya'll are too much alike. Guess I will get to try your new carbon fiber sticks next year at the Greater Carolinas Hangtime! Jason at Timber Ninja Outdoors is not the type of guy to halfa$$ a product so I am sure these sticks will be the real deal. He is a big guy..... 6'2 and he used them all year so I am sure that they would support my 160 pounds no problem.
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Unfortunately, the get together got cancelled, so I won’t get to see them this weekend.
 
Our company worked with Rolo Bikes to develop a high-performance carbon fiber bike frame. If we can make an entire bike frame from carbon fiber, complete with moving parts and mechanical assemblies that doesn't fall apart after thousands of miles of hard riding, i'm sure someone can engineer a reliable climbing stick with no moving parts that arguably gets much less abuse and wear and tear.

Also that bike is unbelievably light.
 
PEEJAY said:
Youre also shooting that thin carbon arrow 300fps....read the guys comments with mountain bikes again
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Here's an upvote for carbon being great stuff. If done right. Carbon arrows vary pretty widely in toughness. I shoot Gold Tip Ultralights in lil' ol' 400 spine, and these are some of their thinnest walled arrows. I've bounced the things off rocks and put them through plywood a few times. I've only broken them when I've hit them very squarely with another arrow, I punched through heavy bone, or once I shot a bedded deer and the arrow stuck through them into the ground and they rolled over on the arrow. Some arrows are known to be more fragile however. I've shot those Gold Tip arrows for 15 years.
 
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I was finally starting to warm up to the thought of carbon fiber sticks. Timber Ninja posted an overview video of their sticks. They look decent except for the plastic steps. Kinda cringed when he said polymer....
 
enkriss said:
I was finally starting to warm up to the thought of carbon fiber sticks. Timber Ninja posted an overview video of their sticks. They look decent except for the plastic steps. Kinda cringed when he said polymer....
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i guess just for the weight savings?? probably quiet with almost no metal parts but i know what you mean. would probably get brittle after years and years of use. but most of us would have bought the next latest and greatest by then. I love my O.G. Lonewolf Assault hang on though.
 
PEEJAY said:
i guess just for the weight savings?? probably quiet with almost no metal parts but i know what you mean. would probably get brittle after years and years of use. but most of us would have bought the next latest and greatest by then. I love my O.G. Lonewolf Assault hang on though.
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Depends on what plastic they are made out of on how brittle they will become... I've been using the same Ameristeps for a ROS year after year and they are 20ish years old and still doing just fine. But yes I agree most likely due to saving weight
 
CamoMan said:
Depends on what plastic they are made out of on how brittle they will become... I've been using the same Ameristeps for a ROS year after year and they are 20ish years old and still doing just fine. But yes I agree most likely due to saving weight
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That was the first plastic I thought of.
 
raisins said:
Plastics nowadays are a lot different. I don't consider "made of plastic" to be a curse anymore. Go try to break the fiberglass reinforced nylon handle on a Spyderco knife.
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Let me stamp my size 14 and 250lbs on it.:blush:
 
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Wait for the Catalyst Outdoor carbon sticks. They'll have an aluminum step and they claim sub 1 lb. Problem is I think they stack staggered. If so, that's a no go for me.
 
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Ah, check this latest CAD file out. Looks like they'll stack ...

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skyjacker said:
Wait for the Catalyst Outdoor carbon sticks. They'll have an aluminum step and they claim sub 1 lb. Problem is I think they stack staggered. If so, that's a no go for me.
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Any idea when they will hit the market?
 
loujo61 said:
Let me stamp my size 14 and 250lbs on it.:blush:
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Well those big feet would help by spreading out the force!

Check out these strength numbers compared to aluminum.

www.azom.com

Polyamide - Nylon 6/6 30% Glass Fibre Reinforced - Supplier Data by Goodfellow

The addition of glass fibre to nylon 6/6 increases its strength. Other effects on properties are also described. Chemical, electrical, mechanical, physical and thermal properties of this material are listed.
www.azom.com www.azom.com

I suppose for a step we'd be more interested in shear strength than tensile, and I don't know how to take the properties as tested and apply them to a bigger piece you are standing on.....but I was impressed. And that was just one type of plastic I pulled off the top of my head (because I knew the name and that's the the first website with that material I looked at....so not gonna act like an expert).

I believe treehopper and silent approach steps both state that in testing their plastic steps are stronger than the straps and buckles. Of course, those are beefier little nubs compared to a step on a stick.
 
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