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[mattsteg]

Honestly just get climbing cordage.

 

[Recurveaholic]

It is hard to find where I live, virtually impossible!

 

[Nutterbuster]

thank you so what is the lowest rating you guys use for climbing as far as working load not break strength?

I am a long way from being the resident expert on ropes, but it's more complicated than just working load and break strength. Most guys on here are using 8-13mm climbing rope. Some static, some dynamic.

Paracord is out.

Anything from the hardware store is out.

You want climbing rope like arborists and rock climbers use. That stuff is not only strong, but abrasion resistant and resistant to melting.

Here's a quick link I pulled that talks a bit about rope:

https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/ropes.html

Using the search bar will turn up a lot if recommendations on what ropes folks use for different purposes. It's a bit of a rabbit hole, but one we all need to go down. I need to familiarize myself with it a bit more as well.

 

[Recurveaholic]

I am a long way from being the resident expert on ropes, but it's more complicated than just working load and break strength. Most guys on here are using 8-13mm climbing rope. Some static, some dynamic.

Paracord is out.

Anything from the hardware store is out.

You want climbing rope like arborists and rock climbers use. That stuff is not only strong, but abrasion resistant and resistant to melting.

Here's a quick link I pulled that talks a bit about rope:

https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/ropes.html

Using the search bar will turn up a lot if recommendations on what ropes folks use for different purposes. It's a bit of a rabbit hole, but one we all need to go down. I need to familiarize myself with it a bit more as well.

Thanks man i am a newbie and want to learn as much as possible it is our lives on the line literally!

 

[Nutterbuster]

It is hard to find where I live, virtually impossible!

Same here, brother. Alabama is not known for its rock walls. Order it from a reputable arborist or climbing supply store.

I don't want to sound harsh, but if you can't source good rope, you have no business being up a tree. While a saddle is very safe, a huge part of that safety is a bomb-proof tether. There are things you can cut corners on, but this isn't one of them.

Aerohunter and Tethrd both sell premade tethers and linemans belts. I believe wild edge does as well, along with most treestand manufacturers. I am currently still using the HSS rope linemans, but it is considered fairly lightweight by most standards. Its still infinitely preferable to paracord.

 

[mattsteg]

It is hard to find where I live, virtually impossible!

Order from somewhere like RW rope, treestuff, etc.

 

[Recurveaholic]

Same here, brother. Alabama is not known for its rock walls. Order it from a reputable arborist or climbing supply store.

I don't want to sound harsh, but if you can't source good rope, you have no business being up a tree. While a saddle is very safe, a huge part of that safety is a bomb-proof tether. There are things you can cut corners on, but this isn't one of them.

Aerohunter and Tethrd both sell premade tethers and linemans belts. I believe wild edge does as well, along with most treestand manufacturers. I am currently still using the HSS rope linemans, but it is considered fairly lightweight by most standards. Its still infinitely preferable to paracord.

i use straps rated for way more than I need for tethers i was just wondering bout linemans belts.

 

[Vtbow]

thank you so what is the lowest rating you guys use for climbing as far as working load not break strength?

HELL NO. paracord should be used for nothing more than pulling your bow up, a loop for your wrist for your pruners....

Depends on what you are using it for, are we talking webbing(nylon, spectra, dynema, etc?), rope(dynamic, static, kemantal or hollow core), what knots will be used in the rope(they decrease strength)

Not trying to be overwhelming--it's just important that you understand the factors involved with these kinds of systems and setups. I suggest either buying a premade setup to start(hss makes a reasonably cheap tether setup with a prussik), or getting a decent book like "Mountaineering: freedom of the hills" for some good bathroom educating prior to diving in. Best option is if you're 100% new to this kind of thing hook up with someone locally who knows what they're doing, nothing beats hands on experience and it will save you a lot of time and money...and make the learning curve much better!

 

[Recurveaholic]

Same here, brother. Alabama is not known for its rock walls. Order it from a reputable arborist or climbing supply store.

I don't want to sound harsh, but if you can't source good rope, you have no business being up a tree. While a saddle is very safe, a huge part of that safety is a bomb-proof tether. There are things you can cut corners on, but this isn't one of them.

Aerohunter and Tethrd both sell premade tethers and linemans belts. I believe wild edge does as well, along with most treestand manufacturers. I am currently still using the HSS rope linemans, but it is considered fairly lightweight by most standards. Its still infinitely preferable to paracord.

I have the same HSS lineman belt i just like the 2 is 1 and 1 is none idea when it comes to my butt hanging!

 

[Recurveaholic]

HELL NO. paracord should be used for nothing more than pulling your bow up, a loop for your wrist for your pruners....

Depends on what you are using it for, are we talking webbing(nylon, spectra, dynema, etc?), rope(dynamic, static, kemantal or hollow core), what knots will be used in the rope(they decrease strength)

Not trying to be overwhelming--it's just important that you understand the factors involved with these kinds of systems and setups. I suggest either buying a premade setup to start(hss makes a reasonably cheap tether setup with a prussik), or getting a decent book like "Mountaineering: freedom of the hills" for some good bathroom educating prior to diving in. Best option is if you're 100% new to this kind of thing hook up with someone locally who knows what they're doing, nothing beats hands on experience and it will save you a lot of time and money...and make the learning curve much better!

I have the GAS linemans belt just wandering about homemade options and I like all the info I can get! Thank you!

 

[Recurveaholic]

I have the GAS linemans belt just wandering about homemade options and I like all the info I can get! Thank you!

sorry HSS!

 

[Recurveaholic]

I am a long way from being the resident expert on ropes, but it's more complicated than just working load and break strength. Most guys on here are using 8-13mm climbing rope. Some static, some dynamic.

Paracord is out.

Anything from the hardware store is out.

You want climbing rope like arborists and rock climbers use. That stuff is not only strong, but abrasion resistant and resistant to melting.

Here's a quick link I pulled that talks a bit about rope:

https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/ropes.html

Using the search bar will turn up a lot if recommendations on what ropes folks use for different purposes. It's a bit of a rabbit hole, but one we all need to go down. I need to familiarize myself with it a bit more as well.

Thank you for the link!

 

[Vtbow]

I am a long way from being the resident expert on ropes, but it's more complicated than just working load and break strength. Most guys on here are using 8-13mm climbing rope. Some static, some dynamic.

Paracord is out.

Anything from the hardware store is out.

You want climbing rope like arborists and rock climbers use. That stuff is not only strong, but abrasion resistant and resistant to melting.

Here's a quick link I pulled that talks a bit about rope:

https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/ropes.html

Using the search bar will turn up a lot if recommendations on what ropes folks use for different purposes. It's a bit of a rabbit hole, but one we all need to go down. I need to familiarize myself with it a bit more as well.

I also highly suggest staying away from "deal" ropes, like what you would find on ebay, amazon, etc. sizing may be right, material may appear right, but who knows how/where it was made, how it was treated in between, stored, etc. Get name brand ropes used within the industries they are designed for. Mammut, sterling, bluewater, edelweiss, black diamond, beal, metolius, etc. you;re life is worth the extra cash, as is piece of mind.

 

[boyne bowhunter]

Thank you for the link!

I have the same issue here in Northern Lower Michigan, no climbing supply stores. I have bought from and would recommend these online suppliers:
Treestuff.com, Wesspur.com, RWrope.com. The first two are primarily arborist suppliers so they are dealing in exactly the materials we should probably be using.

 

[Recurveaholic]

I have the same issue here in Northern Lower Michigan, no climbing supply stores. I have bought from and would recommend these online suppliers:
Treestuff.com, Wesspur.com, RWrope.com. The first two are primarily arborist suppliers so they are dealing in exactly the materials we should probably be using.

Good to know thank you!

 

[Recurveaholic]

I also highly suggest staying away from "deal" ropes, like what you would find on ebay, amazon, etc. sizing may be right, material may appear right, but who knows how/where it was made, how it was treated in between, stored, etc. Get name brand ropes used within the industries they are designed for. Mammut, sterling, bluewater, edelweiss, black diamond, beal, metolius, etc. you;re life is worth the extra cash, as is piece of mind.

Sounds like i have a lot to learn good thing my season is over so I have some free time now, but not much!! Thanks for the info.