Webbing or amsteel?

[ThebigD]

I have recently purchased my first saddle and had some questions on bridge options. My kite will come with the stock rope bridge but i am leaning toward tubular webbing. I like the thought of the webbing but also like the strength of amsteel. What are the pros and cons and why do you prefer one over the other?

 

[swapfox1862]

i have ran a amsteel brindge for almost two years an i love it i just got a flex an it has a webbing bridge an it will be coming off to replace it with amsteel hope that helps you...i perfer how amsteel slides threw the binner over webbing webbing is harder ti slide than amsteel for me

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[Dylan9862003]

I'm the opposite I like the simplicity of the webbing and its ease of replacement. A roll of webbing is cheap and you can replace your bridge as often as you like for cheap. I just removed the rope bridge from my flex and tried an amsteel whoopie and an adjustable webbing. The webbing won for me. its just simple and easy and if I do find a reason to replace it it takes just a couple seconds to tie a new one on. I feel like they are comparable in sliding through the carabiner however I never liked the bump in the amsteel created by the burry. it always seemed to be in the way and slightly affected the way it slides. Not a deal breaker but the webbing is smooth from end to end and I can slide around with the bump scaring the crap out of my if I'm not looking while its sliding.

 

[swapfox1862]

I'm the opposite I like the simplicity of the webbing and its ease of replacement. A roll of webbing is cheap and you can replace your bridge as often as you like for cheap. I just removed the rope bridge from my flex and tried an amsteel whoopie and an adjustable webbing. The webbing won for me. its just simple and easy and if I do find a reason to replace it it takes just a couple seconds to tie a new one on. I feel like they are comparable in sliding through the carabiner however I never liked the bump in the amsteel created by the burry. it always seemed to be in the way and slightly affected the way it slides. Not a deal breaker but the webbing is smooth from end to end and I can slide around with the bump scaring the crap out of my if I'm not looking while its sliding.

i have never done the woopie sling i do a 21 inch fixed bridge

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[mattsteg]

Webbing slides with more resistance but more consistently (no bury) across its entire length, and is cheap/easy to replace.

 

[Allegheny Tom]

I prefer webbing. I think it slides smoother thru the tether carabiner. I don't like the feel of the buries when it slides under weight.
There are different styles of weave of webbing. Some is much softer and smoother than more coarse weaves, so that might effect the feel of the slide for some guys. Different carabiners can make the slide feel different, too.
One other thing...The length of the bridge also makes a difference. A super long carabiner makes for more of an acute angle at the tether carabiner which effects how easily it slides. A short bridge keeps the orientation of the angle much less acute and allows for easier rotation when twisting around for the drop shot.
For me, there are several reasons why a shorter bridge works better.

 

[eyedoc]

Webbing for me...

 

[293sheepdog]

I have a Mantis and my Amsteel bridge is 30" long. I added a 1" webbing bridge 24" long and water knotted on each side. I left the Amsteel bridge in as a back up until I figure out the exact length I want my web bridge. 24" bridge is way more comfortable and maneuverable than the 30" Amsteel. Question is if I buy a couple of load rated tri-glides from DanO how do you thread the webbing with the tri-glide so it doesn't slip under load (photo please!). Thanks in advance.

 

[Dylan9862003]

You can see in this photo what I did. Basically I ran through dano’s triglide as usual making a loop for the carabiner then ran my tail end over and back through a third time to lock it essentially. I like being able to remove my bridge and once I find the length I like I will probly remove the triglide and tie it in at length

 

[Allegheny Tom]

You can see in this photo what I did. Basically I ran through dano’s triglide as usual making a loop for the carabiner then ran my tail end over and back through a third time to lock it essentially. I like being able to remove my bridge and once I find the length I like I will probly remove the triglide and tie it in at length

Yes, this is what you do.
Thats how I thread my webbing. It hasn't slipped at all... not even a fraction of an inch.

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[rutjr]

Tubular webbing for me too. I don't like the lumps from the buries either. Plus I like a short bridge and with the Amsteel there would be a smaller area between the buries so it wouldn't be as smooth.

 

[293sheepdog]

Thanks I’ll have to order a couple from @DanO


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[ThebigD]

So the next question is what webbing to buy? I looked on REI and seen a roll of climbing rated for like 13 dollars but the breaking strength is 17.7 kn (3900 pounds) what are you guys using?

 

[Dylan9862003]

So the next question is what webbing to buy? I looked on REI and seen a roll of climbing rated for like 13 dollars but the breaking strength is 17.7 kn (3900 pounds) what are you guys using?

Mine is the rust colored "Blue water tubular webbing" says 4046# tensile strength

 

[293sheepdog]

Mine is the Bluewater 1” Climbspec tubular webbing at REI. Says 18 kn strength in Kiwi color.

BlueWater 1'' Climb-Spec Tubular Webbing | REI Co-op

Use this tubular webbing for making your own runners or etriers, for anchoring or for use as a sling.

www.rei.com

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[ThebigD]

Mine is the rust colored "Blue water tubular webbing" says 4046# tensile strength

Yea the Bluewaters what i have in my cart. Ill let you guys know how i like it.

 

[deerfly]

I prefer amsteel, but also use a webbing sling as a temporary bridge sometimes. For those that feel the bury bump is problematic you can use a carabiner with a roller or add a micro pulley. I've used both but prefer the Petzl Z as its one gadget that is also shorter in overall length vs a carabiner with a micro pulley. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SRKSR19/ref=biss_dp_sa1

 

[Dylan9862003]

I prefer amsteel, but also use a webbing sling as a temporary bridge sometimes. For those that feel the bury bump is problematic you can use a carabiner with a roller or add a micro pulley. I've used both but prefer the Petzl Z as its one gadget that is also shorter in overall length vs a carabiner with a micro pulley. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SRKSR19/ref=biss_dp_sa1
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WLL is only 4 KN on that? I thought everything climbing related was atleast 18-20KN for safety factor. 4KN is just shy of 900# Better stay mindful of shock loading that carabiner. Not trying to be THAT guy but Im actually surprised it is only rated for 4.

 

[Allegheny Tom]

WLL is only 4 KN on that? I thought everything climbing related was atleast 18-20KN for safety factor. 4KN is just shy of 900# Better stay mindful of shock loading that carabiner. Not trying to be THAT guy but Im actually surprised it is only rated for 4.

Doesnt the photo of the 'beener in his link show 20KN?

 

[deerfly]

WLL is only 4 KN on that? I thought everything climbing related was atleast 18-20KN for safety factor. 4KN is just shy of 900# Better stay mindful of shock loading that carabiner. Not trying to be THAT guy but Im actually surprised it is only rated for 4.

the WLL is the same as SWL, so 900lbs is quite strong, the major axis strength that most people focus on is 20kN or 4496lbs...

ROLLCLIP Z - Pulleys | Petzl USA

Petzl USA. Pulley-carabiner that facilitates installation on anchors and devices

www.petzl.com