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So I got a field point test kit and shot these tips. What say ye? When is the speed to slow?
 

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So I got a field point test kit and shot these tips. What say ye? When is the speed to slow?
Well, the speed question is only one that you can answer. There is an advantage of going over 19% FOC from the data. You're only losing like 13 fps by going form a 100 to 200 grain point. If you are getting perfect arrow flight out of that then that would be a good place to start. You can always go heavier.
 
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In the report FOC is #3 and total weight is #12 so which one should I choose from the list. Next step is to paper shoot all the weights?
 
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In the report FOC is #3 and total weight is #12 so which one should I choose from the list. Next step is to paper shoot all the weights?
FOC if one of the two must be lacking. But make sure you get perfect arrow flight and structural integrity, #'s 1 and 2. I would start with that 200 grain point and go from there, you might end up higher or lower weight to get perfect flight but if I had too I would err on the side of higher weight if possible.
 

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Looks like a 200 grain point will get you above 19% with very little loss of speed.
i agree with this. thats the sweet spot in your data if it shoots good.

240 is fast enough to shoot out to 30 imo.

What do you mean when you say #3 and #12 cooter? i havent read through all the posts i think i missed something
 
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Is paper shooting the best way to assess arrow flight? No fletching or fletched?
 

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gotcha. I would say FOC is going to be more important than TAW. you can really change things by switching out your fletchings if you want more. Its a lot of work but you're going to bareshaft tune and all that anyways. 550ish is what i shoot now. I shot 660 when i first dove into it and i think i like the way my setup shoots now. def louder but way more forgiving if i aim a little short.
 

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Is paper shooting the best way to assess arrow flight? No fletching or fletched?
you can just bareshaft tune at a target if you know your bow is shooting good. Just make sure you're standing in the exact same spot each shot. RF has some really good videos on all that stuff.
 
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gotcha. I would say FOC is going to be more important than TAW. you can really change things by switching out your fletchings if you want more. Its a lot of work but you're going to bareshaft tune and all that anyways. 550ish is what i shoot now. I shot 660 when i first dove into it and i think i like the way my setup shoots now. def louder but way more forgiving if i aim a little short.
Did you say louder because unless I misunderstood most people were saying their bow and arrow flight is quieter the higher the total weight (slower shaft speed)?
 
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I would bare shaft tune them. I agree with PEEJAY, anything in that 550 weight range will be fine. 650 will get you above the heavy bone threshold but that's a tradeoff. If you shoot short range like me then that is something you might consider.
 

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Did you say louder because unless I misunderstood most people were saying there bow and arrow flight is quieter the higher the total weight (slower shaft speed)?
The arrow is quiter too but the bow was much much quieter. I am more inclined to think the bow sound isnt as important as the arrow sound now though. If i clap a deer wont usually duck. they just look up at me. if an arrow is going at them theyll try and duck it somehow. Someone on here explained that to me actually and it definitely changed my mind
 
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The arrow is quiter too but the bow was much much quieter. I am more inclined to think the bow sound isnt as important as the arrow sound now though. If i clap a deer wont usually duck. they just look up at me. if an arrow is going at them theyll try and duck it somehow. Someone on here explained that to me actually and it definitely changed my mind
I misread your post sorry.
 

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What do y'all think about that advice from gold tip? Paper tune with fletchings for compounds?Screenshot_20220620-193313.png
 

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Also thanks for posting your data @CooterBrown, I didn't check the thread but what #and DL are you shooting?
 

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Is paper shooting the best way to assess arrow flight? No fletching or fletched?

here's what i do:

bareshaft through paper at several close distances (5 to 20 feet)....i just walk around randomly in that general vicinity and if tuned they should all be going through clean...also i use wax paper.....newspaper stinks for reading tears

then i shoot a fletched and bareshaft at 20 yards, if they hit close enough

then i move to 40 yards and shoot a fletched field point and fletched broadhead, if tuned they should shoot to the same point of aim with similar groups

shooting bareshafts at 20 yards or further is hyper critical regarding form....it is safe to skip that step and only paper tune with bareshafts and then broadhead tune at the maximum yardage you plan to shoot at game