Who has snorted the Fairy Dust?

[DroptineKrazy]

I am seeing a sh*t ton of videos on you tube made by so called experts at killing deer but about 95% of them are shooting expandables and shooting 70 lbs but when they put one in that 200 lb buck the deer runs off with 3/4 of the arrow sticking out the entry side without even bustin through the opposite rib cage. My goal and in my opinion what should be every bow hunter's goal is a complete pass through especially if it's not a perfect shot. Two holes means more blood especially if the deer was shot from a tree. In that instance you really need that bottom hole to make a great blood trail.

 

[Bowtie747]

I am seeing a sh*t ton of videos on you tube made by so called experts at killing deer but about 95% of them are shooting expandables and shooting 70 lbs but when they put one in that 200 lb buck the deer runs off with 3/4 of the arrow sticking out the entry side without even bustin through the opposite rib cage. My goal and in my opinion what should be every bow hunter's goal is a complete pass through especially if it's not a perfect shot. Two holes means more blood especially if the deer was shot from a tree. In that instance you really need that bottom hole to make a great blood trail.

Thank you, that is exactly why I shoot what I shoot. Got so tired of seeing that. Also partly why I don’t watch those types of hunting shows anymore.

Also think if it’s that common it happens on Tv all the time, imagine how often it happens to your everyday hunter. That they may or may not admit.

 

[Weldabeast]

Every arrow I've ever found out in the woods is 100grainer with aluminum insert.....mix of mech and 3 blade. Never found a fixed 2 blade...

 

[DroptineKrazy]

I can't help but watch those shows or you tube channels. I love seeing monster bucks getting shot regardless of who's doin the shootin..

 

[Petrichor]

I have not snorted the dust. It’s retarded. Both ends of the spectrum. Super light and super heavy. Both are equally nuts. Medium to medium heavy for your setup will be fine. Just the latest trend. Sharp cut on contact broad head more important. Native Americans have been taking down bison and bigger game with stone heads and 35 pound bows for a long time.

 

[Spartan]

Every arrow I've ever found out in the woods is 100grainer with aluminum insert.....mix of mech and 3 blade. Never found a fixed 2 blade...

Well, statistically, that's really just indicative of what most people are using to kill deer. That's telling in itself. Many of those arrows you found were probably owned by people who found their deer, but failed to find their arrow, or just didn't care enough since the BHs don't cost $30-50 each.

 

[Weldabeast]

90% of the time they are at the parking area were peeps forgot them....oops

 

[Spartan]

Here's a 775gn BH for all you folks hunting T-Rex and blue whales

775 Grain Single-bevel Broadheads & Matching Field Points | Edgetac

The Shartac single-bevel broadheads are available in sizes from 375 to 1175 grains. Each is machined from a solid block of steel.

edgetac.com

 

[Bowtie747]

Well, statistically, that's really just indicative of what most people are using to kill deer. That's telling in itself. Many of those arrows you found were probably owned by people who found their deer, but failed to find their arrow, or just didn't care enough since the BHs don't cost $3

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Well, statistically, that's really just indicative of what most people are using to kill deer. That's telling in itself. Many of those arrows you found were probably owned by people who found their deer, but failed to find their arrow, or just didn't care enough since the BHs don't cost $30-50 each.

I’d think that if someone used a heavy arrow as a bandaid and wasnt taking the time to tune they would be less likely to go back and look for an arrow, either lost or fallen out of a deer that’s been shot.

 

[Bowtie747]

Here's a 775gn BH for all you folks hunting T-Rex and blue whales

775 Grain Single-bevel Broadheads & Matching Field Points | Edgetac

The Shartac single-bevel broadheads are available in sizes from 375 to 1175 grains. Each is machined from a solid block of steel.

edgetac.com

They compare their energy to rifles to each their own haha they must be using a super dense metal to get a weight up that high. Kinda impressive considering something equally sized could weight 100 or 200 grains

 

[Weldabeast]

Here's a 775gn BH for all you folks hunting T-Rex and blue whales

775 Grain Single-bevel Broadheads & Matching Field Points | Edgetac

The Shartac single-bevel broadheads are available in sizes from 375 to 1175 grains. Each is machined from a solid block of steel.

edgetac.com

That's retarded....at least they tell u right off the bat it won't shoot accurately

 

[Spartan]

They used to be called Shartac up until recently. They changed their name because I made fun of it.

 

[Spartan]

That's retarded....at least they tell u right off the bat it won't shoot accurately

And that's exactly why I'm saying the things I've said here in this thread. It's getting ridiculous.

 

[Weldabeast]

And that's exactly why I'm saying the things I've said here in this thread. It's getting ridiculous.

The weight isn't the issue.... Why on earth would someone try to market like that..... This thing is great for crossbows but it won't hit where u aim.

 

[Spartan]

The weight isn't the issue.... Why on earth would someone try to market like that..... This thing is great for crossbows but it won't hit where u aim.

You should try them. Your arrows will weigh almost as much as those being used by that New Guinea tribe.

 

[Jimdude]

Yall must have some deer wearing body armor if the goal is to get the arrow to embed two inches into a tree after a pass through. You can't ever get more of a pass through, so you're just wasting energy and losing critical trajectory flatness for no reason. Optimum arrow efficiencies were figured out centuries ago, if not millennia ago. Nothing has changed in that regard other than the hunting industry wants something new to make money off of, and hunters want something new to tinker with, talk about, and spend their money on. I freely admit that reasonably heavier arrows can be advantageous on some larger game or hogs, but let's be honest, this conversation is really about deer hunting.

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You are putting words in my mouth here. I never said I got a pass through 2” into a tree. I did embed an arrow 2” into a maple in my yard when mosquitoes in my face messed me up while broadhead tuning. The point there is if it can go to inches into a tree it can break bones on deer that move before the arrow gets to them. As far as arrows that were built centuries and millennia ago, with stone broadheads on wood shafts… yeah buddy, they were heavy arrows that were taking down bison.
Please don’t misunderstand the tone of my keyboard. I’m not arguing here for either case, I am just having a discussion so please don’t get upset.

 

[Spartan]

You are putting words in my mouth here. I never said I got a pass through 2” into a tree. I did embed an arrow 2” into a maple in my yard when mosquitoes in my face messed me up while broadhead tuning. The point there is if it can go to inches into a tree it can break bones on deer that move before the arrow gets to them. As far as arrows that were built centuries and millennia ago, with stone broadheads on wood shafts… yeah buddy, they were heavy arrows that were taking down bison.
Please don’t misunderstand the tone of my keyboard. I’m not arguing here for either case, I am just having a discussion so please don’t get upset.

Not upset at all, didn't mean to put words in your mouth, and I'm also just discussing.

As far as busting through bones, we must just have different experiences. Deer ribs don't stop my 400-425gn arrows. Never have. I tend to not take shots that may put the arrow elsewhere, so perhaps that is causing our disconnect here. And of course I'm only talking about the entry wound. The exits will sometimes bury in a shoulder or leg bone, but those deer tend to run the same 60-80 yards before crashing as all the others do.

That's just my experience.

 

[Jimdude]

Don’t misunderstand, I absolutely do not take unethical shots. Us guys that believe in heavy arrows only shoot them as an insurance policy for when things go wrong, not for when things go right. Like I said previously I have video of a fawn moving before my crossbow bolt could reach the buck next to it and they were only 18 yards from me. If I was shooting at that fawn with my bow, even a 300 grain arrow would not have not hit where I aimed. It’s just an insurance policy.
No matter what forum you are on, when it comes to heavy versus light arrows we should all just agree to disagree.

 

[Lowg08]

I sniffed and sneezed. I went with hexx 250 spine 250gr cutthroat 100gr insert 30.5 inch arrow and draw 55lbs. 656gr Went through the whole tuning thing. Just not a fan. I went back to a lighter faster arrow. Much happier now. Just to much fall off for me over distance. Cost me a deer this year. Batteries were weak in my range finder was off five yards missed low. My set up now. It wouldn’t have mattered. 60lbs draw Easton sonic 6.0 340 spine 30.5 draw and arrow length low profile four fletch 16 gr insert 100 gr exodus. 372 total weight it’s screaming. Now all I have to do is make sure my furthest shot is past around 32 and put the pin on and let it go. Pin set at 25. Now if you want heavy arrows and like them and have good success with them. Then shoot them. Just not for me. It’s like your drawers. It’s up to ya.

 

[Spartan]

I sniffed and sneezed. I went with hexx 250 spine 250gr cutthroat 100gr insert 30.5 inch arrow and draw 55lbs. 656gr Went through the whole tuning thing. Just not a fan. I went back to a lighter faster arrow. Much happier now. Just to much fall off for me over distance. Cost me a deer this year. Batteries were weak in my range finder was off five yards missed low. My set up now. It wouldn’t have mattered. 60lbs draw Easton sonic 6.0 340 spine 30.5 draw and arrow length low profile four fletch 16 gr insert 100 gr exodus. 372 total weight it’s screaming. Now all I have to do is make sure my furthest shot is past around 32 and put the pin on and let it go. Pin set at 25. Now if you want heavy arrows and like them and have good success with them. Then shoot them. Just not for me. It’s like your drawers. It’s up to ya.

Often an extra 5-7 inches of drop easy over just 5 yards with those heavy arrows compared to standard hunting weight arrows. 5 yards off is all it takes. That completely unnecessary extra bit of bone crushing power doesn't matter much at all when the arrow only hits hair before it hits the dirt. Nothing obscure at all about the math...people are just suckers for good marketing.