Why don't yall 2TC?

[Black Titan]

Yes...without strain and well practiced
...and you can maximize your moves at the ground by setting your tethers high then using your adjustments the first 2 steps withou moving the tether....its frustrating feeling like you are not getting anywhere at the base of the tree the first couple of moves.

That's the way I felt when I first started with my climbing stand, and my one stick.

BT

 

[tailgunner]

Ha hahhh..just Set them both as high as you can at the base of the tree with the foot tether just a couple inches lower than the saddle tether.adjust your saddle up just high enough to sit in and put your foot in the foot tether.then adjust the foot tether up for a good high step
Step up...adjust your saddle tether up to sit in again.then again adjust your foot tether up to step up a second time without needing to raise the foot tether yet.now you raise the saddle tether for the first time after the three adjustents up the tree.its this easy ...set the saddle hight at the tree base ,then foot tether adjustment ,saddle tether adjustment , then foot tether adjustment again.and now advance main tether.

 

[Marmuzz]

I maximize my moves, but without straining. 6 moves to hunting height is what I prefer. To each their own. There are so many ways to customize 2TC, find what works for you.

What are you calling hunting height? I’m aiming for 20’ and I cannot at all imagine how you’re hitting that in 6 moves. My average is approx. 25 moves!!

But yes to each their own. That’s great if you can do that in 6. This technique perhaps more than others is very body specific so not one size will fit all.

 

[Marmuzz]

I maximize my moves, but without straining. 6 moves to hunting height is what I prefer. To each their own. There are so many ways to customize 2TC, find what works for you.

GCR are you adjusting your foot tether hitch up a lot before to stepping into the footloop?

I recalled watching one of your videos with the Stitchts and was just thinking maybe if I had easier hitches to move around, after advancing the main tether I could slide the footloop hitch down to allow me to easily move up the foot tether, then choke that hitch back up to maximize the height gain.

 

[NMSbowhunter]

For comparison, I'm usually doing 12 to 13 moves to get me to at least 20 feet. That is without trying to space out the moves too much.

 

[Marmuzz]

For comparison, I'm usually doing 12 to 13 moves to get me to at least 20 feet. That is without trying to space out the moves too much.

That means you're advancing approx. 18" each move. I don't know what I'm doing wrong then... I'm only getting 9-10" per move.

 

[GeoFish]

That means you're advancing approx. 18" each move. I don't know what I'm doing wrong then... I'm only getting 9-10" per move.

When I tried it I only got about 12" per move. When I get my new saddle I am going to give this another try. I watched Jerry 2TC down in FL. Got me motivated to give it another go.

 

[tailgunner]

Have both of your tethers been high infront of you or right in front of you?

 

[NMSbowhunter]

That means you're advancing approx. 18" each move. I don't know what I'm doing wrong then... I'm only getting 9-10" per move.

I think that a smooth and effortless move in 2TC is one that is based on the length of one's step. That is usually a little less than the distance from the bottom of your foot to your knee. In my case that is 22 inches. My moves are somewhere in that 18 to 22 inch range depending on clothing and weather conditions.

 

[tailgunner]

Sounds right

 

[gcr0003]

GCR are you adjusting your foot tether hitch up a lot before to stepping into the footloop?

I recalled watching one of your videos with the Stitchts and was just thinking maybe if I had easier hitches to move around, after advancing the main tether I could slide the footloop hitch down to allow me to easily move up the foot tether, then choke that hitch back up to maximize the height gain.

No easier hitch to move than a standard prusik. I’ll have to demonstrate since no one agrees. Regardless, yes I am able to get more per move because I move my foot tether foot loop to the top for every move. I’m not recommending this, it is just what I came to be comfortable with. It didn’t feel weird climbing by putting my foot in the foot loop almost parallel with my butt and then pulling myself up as I stand; however, I do admit that it looks cumbersome on video. That said, the movements are identical to getting your foot into a aider for one sticking so many would already be familiar with “maxing” this movement.

Obviously, the taller you are the more distance you will be able to easily and reasonably attain each move. I’m ~6’2” for reference so it’s probably not a fair comparison for most. I do still believe that doing something similar will maximize the movements for others.

Foot into footloop parallel with bottom


Pull yourself forward and stand


Remove slack and place top tether up



3-3+ ft progress

 

[Horn]

I tried it three times and it’s frustrating me. I’m gonna do you want to meet up in Michigan next week so hopefully someone will give me some pointers

I'll help a guy out! Full disclosure: I'm a crazy dude that the SHPD does not approve of lol

 

[Marmuzz]

No easier hitch to move than a standard prusik. I’ll have to demonstrate since no one agrees. Regardless, yes I am able to get more per move because I move my foot tether foot loop to the top for every move. I’m not recommending this, it is just what I came to be comfortable with. It didn’t feel weird climbing by putting my foot in the foot loop almost parallel with my butt and then pulling myself up as I stand; however, I do admit that it looks cumbersome on video. That said, the movements are identical to getting your foot into a aider for one sticking so many would already be familiar with “maxing” this movement.

Obviously, the taller you are the more distance you will be able to easily and reasonably attain each move. I’m ~6’2” for reference so it’s probably not a fair comparison for most. I do still believe that doing something similar will maximize the movements for others.

Foot into footloop parallel with bottom
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Pull yourself forward and stand
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Remove slack and place top tether up
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Thanks for the pictures! That helps a tremendous amount.

You’re right- I immediately disagree that no hitch is easier to move than a standard prusik. But I know this can be so dependent on cord and rope combos. Just last night I put a 8mm Schwabisch on my 10mm HTP and was amazed how easily it operated. Major upgrade from the immovable 6mm TRC I had before (I’ve come to hate that cord for all but rappelling on ≤9mm line.) With that change, I could only practice 2-3 moves on my short backyard tree but I think that increased adjustability let me mimic something like what you’ve shown here.

Today I hope to get some bigger hitch cords to try out. I’ll report back.

 

[gcr0003]

Thanks for the pictures! That helps a tremendous amount.

You’re right- I immediately disagree that no hitch is easier to move than a standard prusik. But I know this can be so dependent on cord and rope combos. Just last night I put a 8mm Schwabisch on my 10mm HTP and was amazed how easily it operated. Major upgrade from the immovable 6mm TRC I had before (I’ve come to hate that cord for all but rappelling on ≤9mm line.) With that change, I could only practice 2-3 moves on my short backyard tree but I think that increased adjustability let me mimic something like what you’ve shown here.

Today I hope to get some bigger hitch cords to try out. I’ll report back.

Easiest to move unweighted, which is how I use it and why it works so well for me. Makes for quick and fast adjustments. Any friction hitch should work, the main thing is taking up slack though.

 

[boxerboxer]

No easier hitch to move than a standard prusik. I’ll have to demonstrate since no one agrees. Regardless, yes I am able to get more per move because I move my foot tether foot loop to the top for every move. I’m not recommending this, it is just what I came to be comfortable with. It didn’t feel weird climbing by putting my foot in the foot loop almost parallel with my butt and then pulling myself up as I stand; however, I do admit that it looks cumbersome on video. That said, the movements are identical to getting your foot into a aider for one sticking so many would already be familiar with “maxing” this movement.

Obviously, the taller you are the more distance you will be able to easily and reasonably attain each move. I’m ~6’2” for reference so it’s probably not a fair comparison for most. I do still believe that doing something similar will maximize the movements for others.

Pull yourself forward and stand
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HOW MUCH IS KARL PRUSIK'S FAMILY PAYING YOU AND HOW DO I ALSO GET IN ON IT????

 

[cheecho67]

so what kind of boots do you guys use??for 2tc?

 

[Marmuzz]

Gabe’s out here in his sandals… and Gunner’s wearing skate shoes

 

[boxerboxer]

so what kind of boots do you guys use??for 2tc?

I've only tried it once so take this with a grain of salt, but I found it perfectly doable in these:

 

[Horn]

so what kind of boots do you guys use??for 2tc?

My standard keen boots work good for me, I use a CGM aider for my foot loop, or a regular piece of rope

 

[Dope on a Rope]

so what kind of boots do you guys use??for 2tc?

Pretty sure @gcr0003 is doing it in Chelsea boots