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Knaider/Swaider tutorial

MCDM said:
Does anyone see an issue with using milspec polyester webbing for the knaider swaider project?
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No issue. Would work fine. That is what mine are/will be made out of.
 
Can somebody link to the new tying method from @Cain ? I'm starting to like the idea of the steppladder over sticks.

Also, what's an average length for the Swaider?
 
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tam9492 said:
Can somebody link to the new tying method from @Cain ? I'm starting to like the idea of the steppladder over sticks.

Also, what's an average length for the Swaider?
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It was actually @boynebowhunter after he saw Cain untie his stepps.


Swaider length depends on where you tie the stepp. I generally tie them head high if only using the single swaider. Your physical ability may push it longer or shorter.
 
Finished my knaider/swaider build and went out to give her a shot. Used with WE Stepps. The way up is friggin awesome! The way down was a struggle because my swaider length was a little long. This made it real hard to get knaider unhooked and get all the way into swaider step. I was gassed when i got back to the ground! I built swaider length from bottom of my foot up to hip height I'm about 6'2", definitely going to shorten that up a bit. Fantastic system, would recommend some reps up and down near ground level for sure.
 
AntlerAddict76 said:
Finished my knaider/swaider build and went out to give her a shot. Used with WE Stepps. The way up is friggin awesome! The way down was a struggle because my swaider length was a little long. This made it real hard to get knaider unhooked and get all the way into swaider step. I was gassed when i got back to the ground! I built swaider length from bottom of my foot up to hip height I'm about 6'2", definitely going to shorten that up a bit. Fantastic system, would recommend some reps up and down near ground level for sure.
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I highly recommend using a strap adjuster, at least until you get your length figured out. You can actually adjust it on the fly and get it just right. Pete
 
Peterk1234 said:
I highly recommend using a strap adjuster, at least until you get your length figured out. You can actually adjust it on the fly and get it just right. Pete
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If you have a ropeman, that works great as well for fine tuning. That is essentially the red squirrel method.

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Metal for sure though. I went that route to begin with and they of course broke immediately! Not sure what I was thinking!!!

Edit: I had used plastic adjusters to begin with
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You can run 1” webbing through rope man? That’s be the ticket


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Built my knaider/swaider today and gave it a try a bit ago. Really slick system! I found I can add a loop of amsteel to the bottom of my stick to connect the swaider and hook the knaider directly to the bottom step on the stick. Works great! I need to see how many WE steps it takes me to get to height but I think 4-5 of them will be plenty!


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Peterk1234 said:
I highly recommend using a strap adjuster, at least until you get your length figured out. You can actually adjust it on the fly and get it just right. Pete
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Thanks Pete! I used your pics at beginning of thread to get started! Brilliant idea man love it
 
flinginairos said:
Built my knaider/swaider today and gave it a try a bit ago. Really slick system! I found I can add a loop of amsteel to the bottom of my stick to connect the swaider and hook the knaider directly to the bottom step on the stick. Works great! I need to see how many WE steps it takes me to get to height but I think 4-5 of them will be plenty!


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I can get 5' pretty easily per WE Stepp. You're taller than me so 5 steps should get you to 30' no problem, plus you get extra height out of the Predator. I can't see a scenario where I'd need more than 6. But 99% of the time, 4 or 5 will be plenty.

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I am going to fabricate my set this week and get practising but I believe I am going to incorporate my rappelling system to come down. Looks like a great way to ascend but rapping out will make it even slicker!
 
cedar paul said:
I am going to fabricate my set this week and get practising but I believe I am going to incorporate my rappelling system to come down. Looks like a great way to ascend but rapping out will make it even slicker!
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You leave stepps/sticks in tree then? Or grab on way down? Does that mean you leave a top rope there or something? I’d love to rap down, have no idea what gear is needed.


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