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Treebolts revisited

I think that's the next thing on my list is to build a better EZ-Kut. I've got 3 of them, because I knew after using it that I'd never want to be without one, and they ain't built to last.
 
I need longer bolts for a cottonwood I set up in. It's a crazy big and old tree with super thick bark and some of the wood is kind of soft. Some of holes just give way when I step on the 6" bolts. I really want to find some 8 or 9" grade 8 bolts. How hard are they to find?


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PJC said:
I need longer bolts for a cottonwood I set up in. It's a crazy big and old tree with super thick bark and some of the wood is kind of soft. Some of holes just give way when I step on the 6" bolts. I really want to find some 8 or 9" grade 8 bolts. How hard are they to find?


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Easy. Ebay has them.

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What I am considering is a swaider on each foot. The first bolt is at about 54" or so, with the next bolt 18" above it on the opposite side. Using the swaider on the first bolt will put you high enough to use a swaider on the second one. After stepping up on the second swaider, the first bolt will be a single step up, as will be the second bolt after that. Then, you just start the whole process over at the 54" above the second bolt. (I use an 18"-20" step average.)

That should let you get 6 feet per pair of bolts... So, 24 feet would be only 8 bolts instead of 16.


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Well, I played around with the Knaider/swaider combo today and I don’t know that I am going to use them. I did sew my swaider a bit too long, but even with that accounted for, I’m not a big fan of how wobbly that much webbing makes your foot. If the tree isn’t the right angle, or your foot isn’t positioned just right, the foot lockout on these can be pretty drastic.

I didn’t even really like the swaider on WE stepps or my climbing sticks.
The Knaider I made has potential, but I need to get better clips because the pair I have lets the webbing slip through the adjustment side too easily. Also, I want to find a way of having the clip go around my leg above the knee instead of below it, because my calf isn’t big enough to ensure the rig doesn’t slip down in use.

Overall, I think it probably convinced me to save up for carbon bolts and beast climbing sticks to replace the grade 8’s and helium’s I have now. But, nothing ventured, nothing gained.


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@IkemanTX, I'm kind of glad you didn't fall in love with it. I can see that getting crazy fast.

I look forward to getting a few hunts in this weekend with the CF bolts (VTBowlts?) Sure, you lose a little time setting up, but it's safe and simple. They are rock solid under foot, and weigh about the same or less as a webbing system. And you absolutely cannot beat the elastic cartridge holder for convenience and packability. The dang thing fits in your cargo pocket!

I really think that if it's legal, it makes 0 sense to use anything but bolts. They compliment saddle hunting INCREDIBLY well. I'm keeping my spurs just for piney woods, and my wild edge steps just for tree-hugger woods. 99% of the time this year I will be using bolts.
 
Nutterbuster said:
@IkemanTX, I'm kind of glad you didn't fall in love with it. I can see that getting crazy fast.

I look forward to getting a few hunts in this weekend with the CF bolts (VTBowlts?) Sure, you lose a little time setting up, but it's safe and simple. They are rock solid under foot, and weigh about the same or less as a webbing system. And you absolutely cannot beat the elastic cartridge holder for convenience and packability. The dang thing fits in your cargo pocket!

I really think that if it's legal, it makes 0 sense to use anything but bolts. They compliment saddle hunting INCREDIBLY well. I'm keeping my spurs just for piney woods, and my wild edge steps just for tree-hugger woods. 99% of the time this year I will be using bolts.
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Elastic cartridge holder? Did I miss something ?
 
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Elastic cartridge holder? Did I miss something ?
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I have mine in a bandolier. Goes over the shoulder. Works well for presetting trees but I also wear a HSS harness with all the big pockets for presetting and the bandolier isn't always needed. I pull out the first 4 bolts in presets so something smaller that keeps them from rattling and keeps them where I don't have to dig for them would be nice. What is that elastic rig?


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@PJC you can buy either a cartridge belt or a buttstock cartridge sleeve from Amazon for less than $10. Allen brand. They hold 20 or 9 bolts, respectively.

Im looking at refining the design, but as-is they are pretty friggin' sweet. You can either zip-tie it to your predator, or slip a biner through a loop and clip it wherever you want.
 
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@Nutterbuster I'm not gonna like, never pegged you as a collar shirt kinda guy, but I think this is the second set of photos I"ve seen with you in one. I still like you though, it's not ironed--so we're still on the same page.
 
@Vtbow I'm actually very much a collared shirt guy. Good ones are infinitely cooler than even the best t-shirts. Pit vents, back vents, and button gaps help a body breathe in this hellish heat and humidity!
 
PJC said:
I have mine in a bandolier. Goes over the shoulder. Works well for presetting trees but I also wear a HSS harness with all the big pockets for presetting and the bandolier isn't always needed. I pull out the first 4 bolts in presets so something smaller that keeps them from rattling and keeps them where I don't have to dig for them would be nice. What is that elastic rig?


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I am thinking a bandolier (or the pouch listed above that I just ordered) over the shoulder. Instead of an RC harness or saddle, I am looking at getting a riggers belt with not only the belay loop on the front, but also loops on the sides to act as linesman belt attachments.
That way, I can set up trees in the off season with just a belt, which I will already be wearing anyways....


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@Vtbow I'm actually very much a collared shirt guy. Good ones are infinitely cooler than even the best t-shirts. Pit vents, back vents, and button gaps help a body breathe in this hellish heat and humidity!
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Ok, I get it...so sporty collared shoots, not office collar shirts. more of the "fishing" type. You're ok, I approve I like those too! Guess I just needed something to hassle you about--my trash talking is horrble, I think this is now the second time I've agreed when someone rebutted what I said...back in my hole I go.
 
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VTBowlts. Pultruded carbon fiber. Lighter than titanium could ever hope to be, and cheaper! I never understood how a dog could be so excited that it peed in circles until I got my hands on these bad boys.
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Wow. Bolts and a mock scrape all in one. Lol
Tell me more about them. How to get etc.


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