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The Knaider in action

sdonx said:
How about an adjustable one step aider like this one. With a knaider on the other leg.

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That is what he just made. Minus the speed buckle. @Ontariofarmer has that aider. He may be able to comment.

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Exactly - Just an easy way to buy one that works well. Yes @Ontariofarmer gave me the idea- I was going to give him credit- should of. I bought a left and a right and found them easy to use once I watched the video from metolius.
I am not into using the stepp for the easy aider, I would rather girth hitch the tree. Still would work with the knaider swimmingly.
 
sdonx said:
Exactly - Just an easy way to buy one that works well. Yes @Ontariofarmer gave me the idea- I was going to give him credit- should of. I bought a left and a right and found them easy to use once I watched the video from metolius.
I am not into using the stepp for the easy aider, I would rather girth hitch the tree. Still would work with the knaider swimmingly.
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What is the difference between the right and the left? I've looked at them for a while but haven't pull the trigger.

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Peterk1234 said:
I tried cinching the whoopie but it is too thin. Once under load it really cuts into the boot. So I made it out of webbing. Sewed a loop for the foot. Stays nice and tight and it does not hurt the foot. Metal thingy on other end so you can adjust if needed. Carabiner is clipped to my harness until I need to hook in. Works well. Another video will get posted tomorrow or the day after to show how it works. I have climbed the tree so many times today that I was afraid of making a mistake. Great idea guys. Sometimes simple just works. Pete

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Once you get your system down, you should climb some of those not so ideal trees in the background (i.e. real hunting trees). You may find yourself trying new things or mixing and matching everything you have learned. A real test for any climbing method is crooked/leaning and a lot of limbs.

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That aider adjusts easily but it is bulky and busy . It would likely work


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BassBoysLLP said:
What is the difference between the right and the left? I've looked at them for a while but haven't pull the trigger.

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The colour and the direction of the foot buckle and adjustment handle.
I really do not know which aider to go with. Multi step aider or these or flingin aider or the knee aider

Short sticks long sticks. The list never ends


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Ontariofarmer said:
That aider adjusts easily but it is bulky and busy . It would likely work


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Interesting. That isn't good. I thought the bulk would be minimal being primarily webbing. I like the ease of adjustability. I need to reevaluate

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Ontariofarmer said:
The colour and the direction of the foot buckle and adjustment handle.
I really do not know which aider to go with. Multi step aider or these or flingin aider or the knee aider

Short sticks long sticks. The list never ends


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I usually carried some webbing aiders on the bottom of my pack for emergency decent. I'm hoping to substitute these emergency aiders for some more practical aiders to be used on a as needed basis with the stepps.

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Here is the latest iteration to be tested as soon as I get through my appointments today. I figured I would put it up here so people can make suggestions before I put all my faith in my linemans belt and try this thing. Carabiner gone and replaced with just a hook. Bungee attached that will clip to harness. It will keep some tension on hook initially, then it should let up as I climb, should retension and automatically unhook. Probably not, but that is the idea.

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I like this latest version. I wonder a bit about how much the bungee will stretch as you extend your leg. The simplicity is excellent.

I also wish the depth/engagement of the hook was deeper. I understand the required flat orientation of the hook, it would set my mind at ease to have it engage more deeply, thereby minimizing the chance of a shake or stutter step disengaging it.
 
Peterk1234 said:
Here is the latest iteration to be tested as soon as I get through my appointments today. I figured I would put it up here so people can make suggestions before I put all my faith in my linemans belt and try this thing. Carabiner gone and replaced with just a hook. Bungee attached that will clip to harness. It will keep some tension on hook initially, then it should let up as I climb, should retension and automatically unhook. Probably not, but that is the idea.

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This is basically what I was talking about in post #20. I assume you are going to use this on one foot and the knaider on the other? I mentioned a retractable leash because it might keep the hook sucked back closer to your body and reduce the risk of the hook banging into something. The bungee also might be more likely to pull the hook off the step if it gets stretched too far.

I haven't built and tried the knaider yet but, do you think the second attachment point around your calf helps make the knaider feel more stable? If so it might be worth attaching this to your foot and calf like the knaider.

Also, it might not be a bad idea to climb with both your tether and your linesmans belt when testing some of this stuff out. It will be a little slower but, might save you some bumps and bruises if something doesn't work like you expected.
 
MJH said:
I like this latest version. I wonder a bit about how much the bungee will stretch as you extend your leg. The simplicity is excellent.

I also wish the depth/engagement of the hook was deeper. I understand the required flat orientation of the hook, it would set my mind at ease to have it engage more deeply, thereby minimizing the chance of a shake or stutter step disengaging it.
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The goal is to have just a little bit of stretch in that bungee. I do not want it flying at my face uncontrollably. The hook sets very strongly. I have probably 200 steps with that hook right now. Never a problem. It is definitely a balance of too much hook and not enough hook. Too much hook could cause issues in trying to unhook from the step. I also wanted to release very easily in case I do slip or fall.
 
MJH said:
I like this latest version. I wonder a bit about how much the bungee will stretch as you extend your leg. The simplicity is excellent.

I also wish the depth/engagement of the hook was deeper. I understand the required flat orientation of the hook, it would set my mind at ease to have it engage more deeply, thereby minimizing the chance of a shake or stutter step disengaging it.
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A lone wolf easy hang hook is deeper and coated. I had some in my hunting bone yard.

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I think I would just use a carabiner instead of the wire hook. Its gonna be a longer aider than the knaider and more chance of it sliding on the cross bar. A good wrapping of camo form on the cross bar would help with noise and sliding though. Its gonna be right there easy to grab as you climb unlike the knaider which will be lower before you have to unhook it. So no need for it to unhook automatically even though it would be cool if it works flawlessly.
 
I don't know about the carabiner. I would hate to fall and be hanging by my leg.

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