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Another first sit

beej32

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I received my kestrel a couple weeks ago and had my first real opportunity to try it out today. I had previously done a couple of brief sits at ground level, but today I started out just using a single stick on a telephone pole. I wasn't at all apprehensive or anything, but it took a few minutes to kind of "loosen up" while hanging there. Once I did, I thought it was very comfortable and got especially excited as my kids came to see what I was doing and I got to see firsthand the potential it provides for "hiding behind the tree."

After that, I grabbed 3 sticks and trekked into the woods a little ways and found a smallish oak to try replicating a hunting situation, though without a bow and only up 12' or so. The main takeaways I had from that experience were realizing how challenging the blake's hitch knot is on the lineman's belt, how valuable it'd be to have a second lineman's belt for navigating forks/branches (that idea had never occurred to me before finding this forum), and how much of a difference the belt placement has on comfort. When I first got hooked up to the tether, I had allowed the kestrel belt to rise a bit above my pant's belt and it was pretty uncomfortable. Lowering it made a huge difference. I only stayed up there maybe 15-20 minutes, but I have high expectations that the saddle will be a game changer next season.

I've now ordered a ropeman1 for the lineman's belt. I feel like I'll prefer to stick with the blake's hitch on the tether, though. I'm still not sure what I'll want to do for a platform, and I need to figure out a good system for hauling/hoisting sticks, bow, and other gear. I'm thinking a dump pouch will be a must for the tether. With the short experience today, I get the impression that most of my tinkering will be with trying to optimize my gear placement rather than doing things like adjusting the bridge length, though it sounds like that may be something I'll pay more attention to in time. For my organization, the first step I've taken is to run some webbing loops run through the molle webbing, and I'm hooking the back support and the bridge carabiner onto those- I think I saw that approach in one of Boswell's videos.

And, I'm also weighing options for getting a little higher with the sticks I have. I'm leaning toward an approach like DaveT's simple movable aider. Another thing I was thankful to have discovered via this forum was the rope mode for sticks, rather than using the cam buckles. I can tell that's going to make a huge difference on my efficiency getting up the tree.

So basically, this is largely a thank you for all the expertise and insight shared here. Hopefully I'll have something to contribute before long and great experiences to share.
 
Sounds like you are on the right track! Blake's hitch on a linesman rope is tough. You will like the ropeman.
In regards to the rope mod on sticks.... While I don't know that it is much of a gain in effeciency on time I did it mainly so I don't have the chance of banging the cam buckle and making noise. I am loving it. My only recommendation would be to make sure you use a rope with very low stretch. I first used cheap 7mm accessory cord and it just a bit of stretch which always had the stick sliding down the tree before it tightened up...

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Tried mine today and got confused at which ropes were which. The back strap came attached to one rope and when I unclipped the back strap the clips came untied and slipped down the rope. One of the knots was very loose when it came and untied so I’m not sure which knot that was to even start off with. I packed it back up and trying to find some good videos for a tree rookie. All these ropes confuse me. Lol
 
Tried mine today and got confused at which ropes were which. The back strap came attached to one rope and when I unclipped the back strap the clips came untied and slipped down the rope. One of the knots was very loose when it came and untied so I’m not sure which knot that was to even start off with. I packed it back up and trying to find some good videos for a tree rookie. All these ropes confuse me. Lol

Lay it out and take some pics. I’ll help you.
 
I got the chance to do another climb/sit today. I lucked out in that my ropeman arrived this morning, and there's no doubt that it's a huge improvement over the blake's hitch on the lineman's belt. The only problem is that the carabiners that come with the kestrel don't fit with the ropeman well, so I'll need to get a replacement.

I had also ordered some webbing and made a 2-step aider, basically following the diy sportsman's video but making it to be used in the same way DaveT uses his, carrying it up as you go. So in my setup, the loop above the knot is just large enough to fit over the top steps on my sticks. One unexpected side-benefit with this aider is that it situates perfectly on my sticks when they're stacked to serve as a carrying strap too.

Using the aider and sticks (stock 3-step, I think from API), I was standing easily 25'+ (I'm guessing actually 27'). I'll say it's remarkable how easily and quietly you can get set up to that height with this sort of system, and it's hard to describe the feeling as anything other than liberating to be at that vantage point, feeling completely safe but at the same time largely unrestrained. The freedom of movement is just so different from past experiences with a safety harness in a hang-on stand. And it's also worth mentioning I was in a tree that absolutely could not be used with a stand higher than 18 feet or so (due to the trunk diameter and its lean).

So this second real climb just further reinforced how happy I am with the choice to invest in a saddle. I still need to figure out what to do for a platform- I'm thinking to hold out for some new ring-of-steps sort of option to emerge. The need for a second lineman's belt was obvious too, because the tree I climbed had a few forks. Then I just need to keep figuring out an approach for storing and transporting gear- currently on the lookout for a good pouch option and leaning toward a doyle's bow hoist. And, I think I'm pretty certainly a sitter rather than a leaner, so knee pads will likely be needed too. One good thing about getting started with this stuff in the spring is it allows a good while until hunting season to better budget and afford all the "needs" that emerge.
 
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