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Breath Cleansing?

Keep your body hydrated. Mouth odor becomes worse as your mouth becomes dry. In other words drink water while hunting.
 
Tom Karrow said:
Any strategies? It would seem obvious that breath is likely the #1 source of odor.. how do you deal with this?


Also, does anyone have any data on scent retention rates? How long scents last on surfaces?
Tom
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Just use milkweed. Scent control is a scam. I tried scent lok, eating certain foods, used to take chlorophyll tablets, boiled the scent off my rubber boots and dipped in trappers wax, bathed in baking soda, and still got winded.
 
drew13 said:
This might sound a bit crazy and extreme, but it's not as bad as it first seems... I chew on white pine bark. Break a thumb-sized live branch off a tree and peel off some of the young bark and chew on it. It actually doesn't taste that bad, lasts a long time, is full of vitamin C and is a natural cough suppressant.
Oh and it's free and usually easy to find while walking in to my tree... Don't knock it til you try it.
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Def gonna try this!

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You can also chew on sasaphras. Back in the day, people would chew on it for breath cleaning, use it as gum make tea etc


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Try your normal brushing and flossing then oil pulling, using 100% real coconut oil
 
CDP said:
It removes toxins from your mouth that brushing can't. But does a lot more. YouTube it
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According to one of the YouTube vids, the American Dental Assn warns against oil pulling.
I don't like the risk of lipoid pneumonia that it can increase.
I'll stick to brush, floss, Butler gum gizmo, peroxide, Smartmouth and apples.
 
Allegheny Tom said:
According to one of the YouTube vids, the American Dental Assn warns against oil pulling.
I don't like the risk of lipoid pneumonia that it can increase.
I'll stick to brush, floss, Butler gum gizmo, peroxide, Smartmouth and apples.
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My wife is a orthodontist. She will tell u, that it is one of the best things to do. ADA will tell u that because they want your $$$$.
They can't make any $$$$ on home remedies.
 
CDP said:
It removes toxins from your mouth that brushing can't. But does a lot more. YouTube it
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It's right before the video on leg pulling. Lol


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I wouldn’t worry about it. Scent control doesn’t work. Gotta play the wind and thermals. My dog has proven it to me again how scent control doesn’t work at all. My wife has tried throwing away her favorite tore up tennis ball 3 times with out the dog knowing. All three times that dog dug through a full trash bag with coffee grinds, used peanut oil, and whatever else with strong aromas and cherry picked out that damn tennis ball leaving the rest to be.
 
Nick Grider said:
I wouldn’t worry about it. Scent control doesn’t work. Gotta play the wind and thermals. My dog has proven it to me again how scent control doesn’t work at all. My wife has tried throwing away her favorite tore up tennis ball 3 times with out the dog knowing. All three times that dog dug through a full trash bag with coffee grinds, used peanut oil, and whatever else with strong aromas and cherry picked out that damn tennis ball leaving the rest to be.
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Odor reduction is not an all or nothing deal. You mention your dog...there are days of perfect conditions when even the worst bird dog can find birds or the worst beagle can run rabbits. And there are days of difficult conditions when the best dogs have trouble. I highly disagree with blanket statements. Not all days, conditions or even individual deer are equal when it comes to odor busts.

I'd like to be able to hunt a place where wind and thermals are totally predictable, and are not complex and changing as other factors change and influence wind behavior. Hunt the wind?? Yeah, study the wind patterns in your area and never ignore the wind. But depending on the wind to not screw me when I need it to be stable is a pipe dream for the hilly country that I hunt.

Next time you watch campfire smoke, notice the fringes of the smoke stream. Its not a well defined perfect line. It billows and swirls. The core of that smoke stream is dense and concentrated. That is how our scent stream is...but there are the peripheral edges where scent molecules goes from "X" parts per million to zero parts per million. That fine and ever changing line is where odor reduction comes into play. That's the zone where we may get away with a deer not blowing out immediately, possibly offering a shot, or even having that deer not alert others in the area. Yeah, deer directly in the core of our scent stream are pretty much gonna bust us. Its the fringes of our stream where odor reduction is valuable.

Then there is the residual odor effect. No scent or odor lasts forever. From the moment its produced, its strength diminishes until completely undetectable by deer, dogs or anything else. The more and stronger that odor is when its produced, the longer it will take to dissipate (all environmental conditions equal, of course).
Make no mistake, deer know where we've been in the woods from our residual odor and the warriest deer learn how to avoid those areas. I contend that, after dark when deer feel secure, they investigate residual odor. We educate them with that odor. The hardest deer to kill is one that knows he is being hunted.
A clean hunter that practices a strict personal hygiene program will leave LESS residual odor...I didn't say NO residual odor. Less is better. Less dissipates sooner. Less keeps our stands more fresh and huntable.
Odor reduction is not odor elimination. There's nothing to be lost by being careful with odors.

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The only things to be lost are time in the woods and hard earned money.
Allegheny Tom said:
Odor reduction is not an all or nothing deal. You mention your dog...there are days of perfect conditions when even the worst bird dog can find birds or the worst beagle can run rabbits. And there are days of difficult conditions when the best dogs have trouble. I highly disagree with blanket statements. Not all days, conditions or even individual deer are equal when it comes to odor busts.

I'd like to be able to hunt a place where wind and thermals are totally predictable, and are not complex and changing as other factors change and influence wind behavior. Hunt the wind?? Yeah, study the wind patterns in your area and never ignore the wind. But depending on the wind to not screw me when I need it to be stable is a pipe dream for the hilly country that I hunt.

Next time you watch campfire smoke, notice the fringes of the smoke stream. Its not a well defined perfect line. It billows and swirls. The core of that smoke stream is dense and concentrated. That is how our scent stream is...but there are the peripheral edges where scent molecules goes from "X" parts per million to zero parts per million. That fine and ever changing line is where odor reduction comes into play. That's the zone where we may get away with a deer not blowing out immediately, possibly offering a shot, or even having that deer not alert others in the area. Yeah, deer directly in the core of our scent stream are pretty much gonna bust us. Its the fringes of our stream where odor reduction is valuable.

Then there is the residual odor effect. No scent or odor lasts forever. From the moment its produced, its strength diminishes until completely undetectable by deer, dogs or anything else. The more and stronger that odor is when its produced, the longer it will take to dissipate (all environmental conditions equal, of course).
Make no mistake, deer know where we've been in the woods from our residual odor and the warriest deer learn how to avoid those areas. I contend that, after dark when deer feel secure, they investigate residual odor. We educate them with that odor. The hardest deer to kill is one that knows he is being hunted.
A clean hunter that practices a strict personal hygiene program will leave LESS residual odor...I didn't say NO residual odor. Less is better. Less dissipates sooner. Less keeps our stands more fresh and huntable.
Odor reduction is not odor elimination. There's nothing to be lost by being careful with odors.

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Nick Grider said:
The only things to be lost are time in the woods and hard earned money.
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The only thing that I lose is maybe an extra half hour sleep in the morning. It does take a little extra time to get clean.
Money? About the only products that I spend extra money on is chlorophyll and an ozone machine (home unit not a field unit). The rest is stuff I'd buy anyway...soap, toothpaste, floss, Smartmouth rinse, laundry detergent. How you use those products are as important as the products themselves. It's more a result of a system and effort and not the result of spending money on products. I lose no time in the stand because of my system...a little time in bed, maybe, but not in the woods. Prioritize...being prepared (showered and clean body and gear) takes precedence over a little bed time. I'll catch up on sleep after the season.

Most of odor reduction comes down to effort, it's not an extra cash expenditure.
Hey, half the battle in tagging the buck you want comes down to confidence in your tactic. Confidence leads to less doubts, which leads to more stand time and less second guessing about your set-up. If I question my set-up for the day (for whatever the reason), I'm more likely to be fidgety and impatient. A lot of my bucks came from persistence and stand time. I have to be confident with my choices for the day or the day becomes a long day with doubts.

If you feel you can pay little attention to personal hygiene and only depend on the wind, if that allows you to feel confident in your stand, then go for it. Hunt like you want.
For me, I just don't feel totally prepared for the hunt if I'm not paying attention to all of the details. Odor reduction is just one of the several details I pay attention to.

Sporadic success can be attributed to luck. Consistent success is attributed to all the pieces of the puzzle coming together due to addressing details on a regular basis.
Not every hunter wants to put forth the same effort as other hunters and that can be defined in more than just odor reduction. Spending money on leases, lodging and transportation, knocking on doors to gain trespass permission, off season scouting, stand prep, access routes, equipment section and care, discipline in the employment of all these things...some guys think a lesser approach is more fun and that paying attention to all the little things is an annoyance.
Others, like me, enjoy all those details. For me, the hunt begins long before I head toward the stand. I like all the strategy and the prep.
Trad bowhunting in high pressure areas like Pa is hard enough. I want to take every precaution I can. For me, that's all part of the fun and contributes to the rewarding feeling I get when I tag. I've been doing it this way for so long that I just don't know any other way to hunt. To each his own. Good luck to you this fall.
 
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