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Cam buckle straps

Mengle

Mengle

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Has anybody used these as a linemans belt and tree tether?
You could girth hitch it to one lineman loop and use a carabiner on the other side.
Both would work as linemans on the way up and one could be taken off to use as a tether.
Seems cheap, strong, and not too heavy.
 
Mengle said:
Has anybody used these as a linemans belt and tree tether?
You could girth hitch it to one lineman loop and use a carabiner on the other side.
Both would work as linemans on the way up and one could be taken off to use as a tether.
Seems cheap, strong, and not too heavy.
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I don't think anyone is going to recommend something that's not climbing rated. I haven't seen any can buckles that come anywhere close to 3,000lbs. Plus that's just a static load, who knows on a drop how they perform. Then you would need rated webbing and rated sewn loops. Climbing rope is safe, easy to use, and really not that expensive compared to most of my hunting gear. For me it's not worth skimping.

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I've used a Lone Wolf strap for a linemans belt before. It got the job done. I would not use a cheaply made cam buckle strap though.
 
I'm comfortable using one as a belt depending on the climbing method. Climbing with bolts for example, all of your weight is on the bolts. Contrast that with spurs where the belt sees a heavier load due to leaning back into it.
 
I cant imagine that would be safe. I suggest spending the money in places that your life depends on. Backcountry has 50ft rope for $20-30


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I've climbed trees with no rope before, It wasnt safe or smart but I was young and dumb. I only climb with gear that's rated for life support, No ifs ands or buts. A 25 foot fall is a game changer.

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Are we all talking about different straps? I’m pretty sure a LoneWolf cam strap is used by thousands of people to support their tree stands? Why would it not be ok to use as a lineman’s belt?
 
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Are we all talking about different straps? I’m pretty sure a LoneWolf cam strap is used by thousands of people to support their tree stands? Why would it not be ok to use as a lineman’s belt?
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A strap to support a tree stand isn't for life support, those are usually around 500-800lb breaking strength. They are assuming you're using a harness.

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JakeB said:
Are we all talking about different straps? I’m pretty sure a LoneWolf cam strap is used by thousands of people to support their tree stands? Why would it not be ok to use as a lineman’s belt?
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It's kind of weird what different people are comfortable with. I have no problem trusting my well being to a lone wolf strap. I'm leary of a Ropeman. Some folks aren't comfortable with the new predator's factor of safety. Some folks sit in a sit drag with no harness. John Eberhart promptly cut the leg straps off of his kestrel. The list goes on.

Ultimately, if you hit the ground it's no skin off of anybody's back but yours and your family's. Read up, test at ground level, and take your chances.
 
Strength rating aside, I don't think the strap would maneuver as well as rope. Changing the length might be a PITA too.
 
Yikes. It would work as a positioning device but I'd hate to take a fall on that. I think my life is worth more than the price delta between a legit lineman's belt and some cheapo jury-rigged solution.
 
JakeB said:
Are we all talking about different straps? I’m pretty sure a LoneWolf cam strap is used by thousands of people to support their tree stands? Why would it not be ok to use as a lineman’s belt?
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Because it's not rated for life support.

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VA saddlehunter said:
I've used the lone wolf strap for a linesman belt for over 10 years, never had a problem with it, however I recently switched over to a ropeman
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I've climbed hundreds of trees without any belts or lanyards just free climbed them and never had a issue. Still doesnt make it a smart idea.

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I have been using my bridge as my linemans and just holding on to the tree as I transition it back to the bridge - I know it is dumb. I think I will probabaly use the cam buckle for a few seconds at hunting height as a second linemans before I switch the first one to hook it in as my bridge.
I figure in my personal situation I am taking a step towards safety, not away from it.

I figure I will stay away from using it as a tether
 
I've been thinking about a similar approach as this. My focus is less on the safety factor and more on the expense and weight/bulk factor. I was wondering about using a 7/64 Amsteel backup lineman belt (thank you G2 for that YouTube video), and climbing with your tether as a primary lineman belt using a Ropeman1. When I get to hunting height I deploy the Amsteel backup LB and then switch the tether LB to its regular tether position and attach my bridge. This way I only need one Ropeman1 (cheaper, less metal, etc.) and only one full size rope (less weight and bulk).

Those of you who climb with LB's and those that run double Ropemans... thoughts on this approach?

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TNSTAAFL said:
I've been thinking about a similar approach as this. My focus is less on the safety factor and more on the expense and weight/bulk factor. I was wondering about using a 7/64 Amsteel backup lineman belt (thank you G2 for that YouTube video), and climbing with your tether as a primary lineman belt using a Ropeman1. When I get to hunting height I deploy the Amsteel backup LB and then switch the tether LB to its regular tether position and attach my bridge. This way I only need one Ropeman1 (cheaper, less metal, etc.) and only one full size rope (less weight and bulk).

Those of you who climb with LB's and those that run double Ropemans... thoughts on this approach?

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You want to use a ropeman on the linemens belt out of amsteel?

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Sorry, no. The Ropeman is on my tether which I will actually use as a LB to climb.

When I get to hunting height I need to move the tether to its tree girth hitch position safely. That's where the Amsteel backup LB comes in. Connect that around tree, and then move tether to final position. Is that more clear?

This is all hypothetical and the point is to ask if more experienced folks think this is viable and reasonably safe.

The presumed benefit is to only have to buy and use one Ropeman. Also I'm assuming the Amsteel backup is much lighter and less bulky than a regular LB (remember G2's great line..."ounces add up to pounds").

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TNSTAAFL said:
My focus is less on the safety factor and more on the expense and weight/bulk factor.
Those of you who climb with LB's and those that run double Ropemans... thoughts on this approach?

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There are so many other ways to save on weight while still using climbing rated gear. Your are looking at 4 oz? Get 8X32's instead of 8X42's and you've made it up. Haha, I've said my piece, good luck this year!
 
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